I pit the morons who applaud people be executed in Texas

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*being executed in Texas

Ok, I know I’m a little late on this pitting, but not many things get me as upset as this, and it’s time I got this off my chest.

Let me just put out there that I am politically opposed to the death penalty, but not because I think capital punishment is morally wrong. I only oppose it because our justice system is imperfect, and no matter how hard we may try, innocent people have been put to death at the hands of the state, and more will be. It’s just a matter of fact, given the current limitations of human technology. Perhaps in the future there will be better ways of 100% proving guilt, but for me, the current standard of finding guilt is just not good enough for me to accept capital punishment.

That being said, then, I do not get riled up or angry at people who DO support the death penalty. They are simply making a value judgment different than mine, IE, that it is acceptible if a relatively few innocent people are murdered through capital punishment, whereas I do not find this acceptible. In other words, I’m not going to be out strongly protesting against capital punishment, because I do believe it does serve some positive purpose, and some people honestly do deserve to die.

But what really pisses me off, is that during the republican debate when the question was brought up about how Texas has sent over 200 people to death for Governor Perry, people started APPLAUDING and CHEERING in the middle of the question. REALLY? You are CHEERING the death of another person? I am disgusted. Even if someone deserves to die (and I agree that sometimes they really do deserve it), I would never, EVER applaud it. It is not something to cheer or applaud. It is much closer to a necessary evil. IMHO, Perry’s somber response was great, and intelligent… the idiots in the audience cheering at the mere mention of capital punishment got put in their place by his measured, intellectual response.

Where the hell do you get off applauding the deaths of people, even if you think they deserve it? Fuck you. FUCK YOU! It makes me so angry that people can honestly feel so good about killing other people.

Support the death penalty, don’t support the death penalty… but for God’s sake, please don’t revel in it and then let it bring you to orgasm, you sick fucks.

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People are sick. This is all a fucking game. Rah rah my team! We want the death penalty, we want the death penalty, gooooooo death penalty!!!

Every time some sinner is put to death, it’s a point for Truth and Justice, doncha know?

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Better to be opposed to capital punishment on moral grounds. After all, it is inarguably wrong in all circumstances.

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I dunno.

I could get behind the death penalty in some circumstances: DNA proof and all that.

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Everyone knows the government is incompetent and can’t do anything right and shouldn’t be even be trusted to deliver the mail…but deciding who lives and dies is swell.

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Well, if someone close to me were murdered, and the responsible party caught in the act on camera, with confirming DNA as well, I’d applaud the murderer’s execution. Other than that, meh.

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Don’t you see? The real solution is to let private industry in on the capital punishment game. Let the Free Market decide who lives and dies.

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Really? Really applaud… I just don’t get it. Yes, I agree… he/she deserves to die. I might feel more at peace, in a similar situation. In a way, maybe a bit happy… But I would still be so sad that such a terrible thing had been done, and that it was the only way we could really deal with it… Why applaud? Why be happy about it? I get that you believe they are getting what they deserve… but to me this is like a parent who would actually enjoy spanking their child. It makes no emotional sense to me.

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Death Porn.

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Now you’ve gone and hurt my feelings…

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Well said, Sir.

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Is… is that a real thing??? That is so gross.

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I agree with the OP. It’s terribly disturbing to see what appears to be genuine lust and savage glee at the thought of the death of another human being.

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Correct me if I’m wrong Bricker, but you consider yourself to be a conservative or a republican right? If so, does it upset you that fellow conservatives/republicans would cheer at such a thing? As an independently left-leaning centerist, it really makes me disturbed to see the republican base getting so happy about that kind of a thing. It kind of demeans the party to me. As I said though, Perry handled the question well and I respect his opinion.

Obviously there are probably a fair amount of democrats who support the death penalty… but if we were in the middle of the 2008 democratic primary debates, I would never expect the audience to cheer and applaud and shout at a question about the death penalty. Am I way off base, or is the democratic party more in touch with reasonable emotion on this issue than the republican party?

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For something inarguably wrong, it seems to be argued quite often and vociferously.

I do oppose the DP on what might be called moral grounds, just probably not the same morals grounds to which you refer. If the DP were applied equitably to all those who commit a DP-worthy crime, regardless of race, regardless of social class and income, I would be far less opposed.

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I don’t know how you can compare the two. The parent (supposedly) loves their child, so they shouldn’t enjoy spanking it. OTOH, if someone murdered my husband, there are no words to describe how opposite my feelings would be towards that person than love. I doubt I’d applaud their death only because I’d be wishing for a less humane demise.

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Torture porn.

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The Republican party is the party for hate-filled bigots (and their oligarch overlords), what’s so surprising about hate-filled bigots reveling in the idea of blacks (and you know that’s who they picture when they picture someon on death row) being executed by the state and poor people being denied life saving medical treatment?

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Aye aye. Indeed creepy and unsettling, but what was worse was Perry was asked if he felt bad at all that innocent people had been erroneously killed, and his answer amounted to “no.” He didn’t actually say no, of course, because that would make him seem like a monster, but his answer was essentially “no” as he blew off the question with some silliness about how a murderous government is okay because we have a good system in place to make sure only the guilty are executed. Obviously and demonstrable untrue which is the premise of the question, and is the whole problem, of course, which was pointed out in the OP. It’s not good enough. Innocent people have been killed by the state, this is indisputable, and they will continue to be. Asking how one reconciles this isn’t that tough or uncommon of a question, and yet he completely neglected to answer what was asked, which I guess is all that could be expected when his answer was “Oh well.”

I’ve asked some pro death penalty people how they feel about knowing the system is flawed, and the answers vary but typically boil down to “it’s best not to think about it because the unpleasantness would detract from how good I feel about bad guys being put down” which is bad, but somehow not as bad as a shrug and a “tough shit.”

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I think the vast majority of them just want to keep all their money and get as much more as possible. They only hate those of us with less money, who have designs on theirs. :slight_smile: