So I take that you never apply a nickname to ANYBODY you meet.
I’m not saying it’s not rude (I did it specifically to display my extreme disagreement with Abe’s post), I’m saying that it’s not a “personal insult”.
Minty…
Again you fail to provide context. The incident which he now quotes is where Svin asks me to clarify several comments of mine. I did so. How, pray tell, is clarification a symbol of “assholicness”?
I contend that Minty simply can’t stand the fact that he can’t debate worth dick (he hadn’t provided a single cogent point to the debate in the first place… indeed, when I asked how measures such as Gun Locks would have prevented the incident at Columbine, he responds with an idiotic attempt at baseball humor… when further pressed, he presented a completely irrational and juvenile attempt to demonstrate how Gun Locks would have magically prevent the gunmen at the school from being unable to fire their weapons), and rather than run away with his cowardly tail 'tween his legs, he wants to open a Pit thread so he may rant to his heart’s delight.
For this last one that you just quoted, it’s quite simple:
Svinlesha asks: “Are you actually admitting, SPOOFE, that a lack of gun control legislation leads to a less-secure society?”
To which I responded with (among other things… there were more than ten words in my response to Svin, you know): "But, ultimately, yes, I believe that if there was no gun control, then that would be a huge risk to the security of the people.
Conversely, I believe that too much gun control is also a huge risk to the people."
Now, tell me how that is being assholic, you festering, whining pile of snot.
“Whining pile of snot,” indeed. I was just reading the “about me” section of your web page. I highly recommend that site to anyone who needs proof that there are people who are more emotionally stunted than themselves.
I never claimed you were insulting to Svinlesa. As should be obvious to anyone who read the paragraph in which I discussed it–not that I really believe you practice what you preach–your comment was evidence of the “transparent rationalization” that was your excuse for your insult of ME due to YOUR inability to write a clear sentence.
Explain away your insults in the two posts that are discussed in the OP. I eagerly await the context that makes those uncalled-for, utterly inappropriate attacks on me and Abe disappear into a vapor of good intentions and polite debate.
And make it snappy, because I’m on my way out of town for the weekend. With a beautiful woman. Think about that as you sit around your room at that fourth-rate college, no friends at all, writing your “Star Wars” novel and declaring yourself dictator of imaginary governments.
I’ve been following this with mild interest, not really on either side, but reading it gives me something to do. This is just getting childish.
In other words, “I know you are, but what am I?” Come on, minty green. If you want to make your point, I can’t see how dragging his web page into it has anything whatsoever to do with this argument.
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Ah, the old “I have a life” bit. Wonderful argument every time I see it here. Besides that, this is a personal pet peeve of mine due to its complete lameness as a put down. Unless you know this poster IRL, how could you possibly pretend to know what a person’s life is away from the boards, without making claims of omniscience or psychic abilities?
Now I’m on my way to make love to a dozen Norwegian supermodels who think the sun shines out of my ass. Think about that while you eagerly await SPOOFE’s reply. (There, you see how stupid that sounds?)
And now SPOOFE. I like you. I don’t recall us ever having a disagreement on the borads. But it does seem that giving nicknames to someone in the manner you did was meant to be degrading, and as such, an insult (even something as innocuous as “Chuckles” - I mean come on people, are we so thin-skinned now that “Chuckles” pisses us off?). Even if you didn’t mean it as insulting, it was taken that way and should be apologized for, is that such a big deal?
I myself have a habit of referring to people as “sport” But in the context which I do that, it can be viewed as either endearing or condescending. If condescending, it is an insult. You were clearly being condescending.
Of course it’s childish, Crunchy. This is the Pit, which is the place for childish insults. I didn’t come here to debate spoofe, I came here to call him out. And since he still refuses to explain or justify his behavior in GD, I see no reason to take the high road in here.
It’s not the place for childish insults, it’s the place to call people out on doing stupid shit. I agree with your points about SPOOFE, minty, but your last post was way over the top. Bringing in stuff that doesn’t even apply to the boards, let alone your topic, isn’t just “not taking the high road,” it’s digging yourself a fresh new trench to walk through.
You seem really anxious to step down to the same level of immaturity that you accuse SPOOFE of operating at. Not a very good way of getting your point across, if I do say so myself.
At 10:30ct on a Friday night, don’t you have a beautiful woman you could be spending your time with? Where’s that life you claimed to have a couple posts ago? I have an excuse for posting here this late on a holiday weekend; I’m at work.
If I want to see a bunch of pointless, childish insults be lobbed back and forth like a tether ball, I’d hang out at the local elementary school. And don’t give me the standard, “If you don’t like it, don’t read it” crap. I was liking it just fine until someone started the whole lame “I have a life” argument and dragged more unrelated shit here. If you have a problem with SPOOFE for his behavior on the boards, fine. If you have a problem with SPOOFE personally to the point you feel the need to not only attack his posting style but also his home page, college, hobbies, and choice of lifestyle then don’t bring it here. At that point it’s between you and SPOOFE and just smacks of the evasive tactic of someone who can’t hold his own end of the argument and has to resort to personal attacks when logic fails. You need to be careful before you become that which you rail against.
BTW - I now understand your loathing for taking the high road. I see from your profile that you’re a lawyer.
See, Minty, that’s a “personal insult”. You fucking braindead hypocrite.
It’s been my experience that people who have to resort to “Your website sucks” (if I recall correctly, the last person to resort to that 3rd-grade tactic was YOZZER) are the people who know they’re full of shit.
I already did. Or did you miss my first post in this thread of yours?
Dillweed. Enjoy your “beautiful woman”, 'cuz if your behavior and personality on these boards are indicative of your personality IRL, I seriously doubt that you’ll see her again after tonight.
Crunchy Frog…
You’re right, it isn’t such a big deal to eat a little crow now and then. I do apologize to Abe - I’ll be heading over to the thread in question to do it there, too. I was trying to be “devilishly playful” and I guess I came off a bit ruder than I wanted… so I apologize to Abe and to the Board in general, and I’ll try to watch that behavior in the future.
SPOOFE, you have indeed gone too far. From ad homimem attacks, to hypocrisy, to arguments that don’t hold water no matter how often you qualify them, to what appears to be deliberate stubbornness.
Your posts speak for themselves, and this is what comes through. Your hostility is tedious. Your lack of perspective is boorish. Your inability to accept or consider seriously what others say is rude. Some of your arguments are vaporous and side-darting, and are insults to the art of debate.
A number of us have made several arguments against your position. You have addressed in valid manner only few of them–not all of which you have resolved in any way-- yet you believe unconditionally in your intellect and in your flawed arguments. You are clearly not stupid, but your intellect has little discipline, your behaviour is questionable, and you come across as rather less intelligent than you seem to believe you are.
Conducting the gun debate discussion with you has been frustrating on my part because I didn’t see my (or others’ really) points being addressed properly, you took great issue with personal views, and resorted to insults and derision. Great Debates is not the place for such insults or techniques. This is the place for insults, and you earned some. You have acted like a poster with very limited benefit to a message board dedicated to debate. This particular forum seems better suited to some of the techniques and content you posted in GD.
If you want to have a discussion about invalid arguments and hypocrisy, Abe, we can go to town all night. I’m still wondering where you got that 60,000 figure from.
I’m sitting here waiting for minty green to start opening up threads condeming the “gamer” threads we’ve seen lately.
If you don’t like someone’s lifestyle, then you should shut your mouth. Using the old “I have a life” routine is no different to me than judging people on skin color, gender, religion or sexual orientation.
NEWSFLASH!!!
They have a life too. I don’t care who you are, your lifestyle looks ridiculous and lame to a signifigant part of the world.
RE: Chuckles
I don’t want to encourage insults in GD, (it was an insult) but I did laugh the first ten times I read it. After that, it did get a little repetetive and obvious.
And hey, the last I checked Spoofe was offering an apology. I’m sorry that Abe wasn’t able to get in here and offer his opinion before the apology, but it just screams of bad form to start bashing someone after they have admitted their mistake.
Obviously, my statement was not ‘never apply nicknames to anyone’, but ‘applying a (in essence) nickname w/o their consent, and despite their objections is rude’, and still stands. You admit that you intended it to display extreme disagreement, and now I see that you agree that it was uncalled for and have apologized.
I wasn’t attempting to be part of a pile, since I wasn’t party to that discussion, however, I’ve been saddened of late, because of what I’ve seen as an increase in personal attacks in GD lately.
Crunchy: Since you asked, she was packing. Right now, she’s in the shower, and in an hour or so, we’re outta here for the next three days.
Spoofe: So your idea of context for the OP posts consists of the following:
Colorful nickname,
Absolutely false assertion that I failed to read your entire post to transform a gramatically perfect sentence that said something totally stupid into a different sentence entirely.
Feh. Both assertions are bullshit.
You’re an asshole, spoofe, but I can live with that. My feelings are not hurt in the teeniest, tiniest way by anything you could possibly say about me in the Pit. My beef with you is injecting that shit into GD. And as long as you stop doing that, we’ll get along just fine.
What an awkward sentence. In either case, my idea of “context” is exactly what Merriam-Webster says it is, genius.
Where the fuck did I imply that I think this is “context”? Do you even know what “context” is?
Another incredibly awkward sentence. But let’s take a closer look at this…
First, you take one sentence from a long post of mine and ask for clarification of that sentence. I reply that I had already clarified that sentence at a later point in my post and wondered if you simply hadn’t noticed. And you take offense to this… why?
Coming from the King of Bullshit, that’s quite a comment.
Coming from the King of Assholes, that’s quite a comment.
Uh… so? You think my feelings are hurt by your “I’m going out with a beautiful blow-up d–* I mean, woman” and “Neener-neener, your webpage is dorky!” shit?
I note that you spend so much time whining about the use of the nickname “Chuckles”… heck, you mention it five separate times in the OP (and let’s not forget the 100% false application of a quote that I didn’t say). Methinks you should probably spend a little more time backing up your arguments… you still haven’t provided any evidence of your dismissal of Unclebeer’s arguments. Are you going to, or are you going to continue this charade of “I have a life!” and “Your friends are nerds!”?
