This is a ridiculously silly question. Literally everyone KNOWS he has all the required resources to pay for his own expenses whatever they may be. So, that’s why not!
Did you really think this weak tea argument was making a serious point?
No, no one should give financial aid to those who HAVE the resources to cover it themselves. Did you really need that spelled out for you!
If RP lost everything in a Tornado tomorrow, and needed financial aid, hell yes, I’d help him without regard to how he votes.
Do you imagine the people at the mission are checking people’s voting habits before admitting them? Imagine if food banks did this, or the welfare system!
I cannot imagine a sillier argument than the one you’re making.
IMO, the appropriate question to ask if you want to give to those in need is “is this person genuinely in need?”. You can use your judgement for that, but IMO who they voted for doesn’t factor into this.
*"Michael Marshall, of the Good Thinking Society, said: “We are concerned that so many UK patients are raising huge sums for treatments which are not evidence based and which in some cases may even do them harm.”
He said crowdfunding sites, especially those which profited from donation fees, had a responsibility to stop "the exploitation of vulnerable people.”
The research was published in an article in the medical journal BMJ which also raised concerns about prices charged by some private clinics, such as the Hallwang clinic in Germany which charges around £1,000 per day."*
You do know that plenty of conservatives support charities and groups like The Salvation Army and The Gospel Mission, right? Hell, just the fact that both of them even exist shows that this is kind of a clueless point to bring up. Conservatives tend more toward opposing handouts on a governmental level, not an individual one. I have met fewer people in life more conservative than my dad, and he happily supports groups like the two I mentioned above.
This seems strong support for the OP’s actions. The fact that conservatives are happy to support ‘charities’ like the Salvation army that will refuse to help people that the conservatives themselves don’t like looks to me like active endorsement of the principle of avoiding any kind of general ‘help for all people’ and instead picking and choosing. If conservatives prefer to not have things like UHC because not having UHC lets them target their ‘charity’ to best hurt minorities and poor people, they should have no objection to ‘liberals’ deciding not to give personal charities to people who like hurting minorities and poor people.
Depends, how much are you giving? Anything less than a $1000 and I’d tell you to go to hell. Then again, I’ve never had a use for gofundme other than donating on it a few times.
Giving to the needy is giving to the needy, no matter what. Plenty of organizations give to anyone and everyone. And a program founded based on Christianity doesn’t mean they only help Christians.
Besides, OP him/herself is talking about giving only to those who vote the way he/she does. The hypocrisy is incredible.
Giving to some of the needy but not the needy that you don’t like is selectively giving to the needy, and is what people object to in the OP’s proposal. Plenty of organizations do give to anyone and everyone, including some that claim Christian origins - but the Salvation Army and (after a quick google) Gospel mission are both highly bigoted organization that offensively and blatantly discriminate against LGBT people. You are making technically true statements that do not apply to the organizations you yourself chose to use as examples.
I fail to see any hypocrisy in the OP - where exactly is the OP doing something that he condemns other people for doing? It looks to me like the OP is refusing to provide a health care to people that refuse to provide health care to all. While one can disagree with that position, it is not at all hypocritical, and is in fact treating such people as though they are following the golden rule (under the Golden Rule, they would treat others as they want to be treated, and he is giving them the treatment they give to others).
I openly and compassionately voiced support for helping everyone in this country with their medical expenses, rich, poor, progressive and conservative. I vote for people who support this idea, am 100% on board with making this help available to everyone in our country, even people who disagree with me.
manson72’s hypothetical begger-man actively, openly, and with a giant “suck it up, buttercup” fought against it. He fought to maintain the system that righteously fucks millions of Americans every year. If there is anyone in the country that deserves to be fucked by our twisted health care system, it’s the people who voted to keep it. It’s what he wanted, he should get it, every bit as enthusiastically as everyone else.
Don’t be so binary dudes. What if those Trump voters were really as stupid as you claim they are and were simply hoodwinked? What if they have sincerely repented?
May I suggest that there are some other factors too… maybe you should get an inventory to see what they might sell, or perhaps never should have bought in the first place?
Well, technically, nobody chooses their race/ethnicity, whereas people do choose who they vote for.
A better analogy might be religion. People choose their religion. But it would be considered quite wrong by society for one to say, “Before I donate, can I ask if this person is a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc.? I only donate to Christians.”
Did the Buddhist choose Buddhism because of Buddhism’s unhelpful stance on the very problem they are seeking relief from? Of course not, which is why it’s a lousy analogy.
Now, donating to an anti-vaxxer to help offset their child’s measles treatment costs… THAT is an apt analogy.
I imagine many UHC opponents might see no contradiction or hypocrisy in supporting GoFundMe appeals or using it to cover their own medical expenses.
Their view might be that you should fend for yourself, but when you can’t, it’s right and appropriate to appeal to friends and the community for help because you’re an upright citizen. But it’s wrong and inappropriate for others to expect the entire nation to help, because they’re probably just lowlife scum out to scam the system.