So if you ask someone where they’re going on vacation, and they say, “Crete!”, that proves that Crete is not really a part of Greece?
Hawaii is a part of the United States because the vast majority of people who live in Hawaii consider it part of the United States, and the vast majority of people who live in the rest of the United States consider it a part of the United States.
Whether the Hawaiian monarchy was unjustly overthrown is irrelevant, just as it’s irrelevant which German emperor annexed which Holy Roman princepality. Italy was unified by force, Germany was unified by force, France was unified by force, the United Kingdom was unified by force, Russia was unified by force, Spain was unified by force.
However, that doesn’t mean that nations can’t be disolved. Hawaii could become independent if almost everyone in Hawaii wanted independence, and the rest of the US agreed. The absolute most it would take is a constitutional amendment granting Hawaiian independence. However, before that could happen it would require that, you know, people who live in Hawaii WANTED to be independent. If they don’t want to be independent, then it’s pretty racist to kick them out of the country when they don’t want to be kicked out of the country, isn’t it?
I don’t know the documentary the OP saw, but I think the OP got the impression from it that the Hawaiian independence movement enjoys widespread support in Hawaii, and that’s simply not true.
That is the best I can tell although the OP has left me more confused than any this week.
WildfireMM** are you aware that Hawaiian separatists groups are very small, marginalized, and not taken seriously by anyone but themselves (and you apparently). They aren’t unique to Hawaii either. Texas has some very vocal ones as do a few Alaskans. Militia groups in the Midwest have some pretty bold ideas as well.
The issue of Hawaiian independence just isn’t something that comes up very often except as a theoretical curiosity. I don’t know what made you think that but it doesn’t reflect reality at all. Hawaiians aren’t the equivalent of Palestinians and all kinds of Americans make it their home.
Hawaii is a fully functioning and peaceful U.S. state with a very diverse population. It is only 23% Native Islander and 40% white. I can’t figure out how you arrived at your ideas because they sound exceedingly strange to Americans.
Uh, no. Well, maybe; you may just expect “the USA,” as such, to end sooner than I do. There will probably be something recognizably Anglo-America for at least most of the millenium to come, & part of it will probably call itself a continuation of Washington’s republic for the next 1-5 centuries of that; but Hawai’i may be the second state to really secede once that starts happening, maybe in the next 200 years.
Kind of like how somehow Wallachia & Britain fell out of the Roman Empire, & Iceland stopped being under the Danish crown. The remote bits tend to fall away due to geographical non-compactness.
