Information On The Economic Impact Of China's Policies On Women

A friend is doing a paper for school on what the economic impact of China’s policies have been on women, and she is trying to find a source for information. I’m not that source, but I thought someone here might know of a good place to look.

To be honest, I’m not entirely clear what she needs, but I think she’s referring to policies like the one child law (for example) and how it has resulted in far larger number of male births. Since there are so many fewer women, do they benefit in the workplace? Are they able to marry a more desirable man? Those types of questions. I’m sure China has other gender related policies that would affect women’s economic situation, too.

Any help would be appreciated because my friend’s not really internet savvy, and I’m not sure I understand the topic. Thanks.

The World Bank will be a good start. http://econ.worldbank.org/

Also some of the working papers links here may be helpful:

http://business.baylor.edu/Steve_Gardner//WP.HTM

The library will have online search services that should be fruitful, e.g. lexus-nexus.

Hope that helps.

India, not China, but IIRC there was an article on the BBC’s From Our Correspondent a while back which showed how some areas of India were now female-short, so women’s families were no longer having to pay dowries etc.

If you can find a library with a copy of Wanting a Daughter, Needing a Son by Kay Ann Johnson and Amy Klatzkin you might find some useful info there. It is well researched and, IMHO, badly written–contains lots of actual data about the one child policy and how it has affected women and children.

I say a library because I can’t recommend buying it. I could ship you our copy if you like. :slight_smile:

Assuming no biological bias towards male or female children, and no other confounding factors, the one child law would not change the ratio of males to females. If we do assume that a particular couple can have a bias toward one gender or the other in their offspring, then the one child law would actually result in a larger number of female births than male births.

For those not familiar, the one-child laws state that ordinarily, a couple can only have one child, but due to the importance of sons in rural areas, in those areas, if the first child is a girl, the couple is allowed one more child. Now, to illustrate the effect: Suppose we have 1000 couples, each with equal chance for a boy or a girl. They all have their first child. In 500 couples, the first child is a boy, and they’re done. In the other 500, the first child is a girl, and they try again. One their second tries, half of them have a boy, and half have another girl. So we have a total of 750 boys and 750 girls.

Now suppose that some couples have a biological bias towards having boys, and an equal number have a bias towards girls. Let’s say, as an example, that a quarter of all couples are guaranteed girls, a quarter are guaranteed boys, and the remaining half all have a coin-flip on each kid (the bias would never actually be this strong, but it makes the example easier). Now, of our 1000 original couples, 250 have boys because they have to, 250 have boys by chance, 250 have girls by chance, and 250 have girls because they have to. The 500 who had girls, half of them random and half of them predestined, each try again. Of those who were random, half, or 125, have girls, and half have boys. Of those who are guaranteed girls, all have another girl. Now, we have a total of 625 boys born and 875 girls.

It’s possible, of course, that there are an overwhelming number of male births for some other reason. For instance, a couple may be more likely to abort a female than a male. But I’m not sure this is related to the one child law.

What they’re referring to here, though is a cultural bias toward having sons. Since couples only get one child, they will sometimes selectively abort daughters.

This has resulted in a male:female birth ratio of 120:100, instead of the basic rate of 106:100 for the human race as a whole. This is by official Chinese government figures; many fear the real difference is even worse.

The practice of selective abortion is illegal in China. In fact, in an effort to curb the practice they’ve actually made it illegal to get an ultrasound unless it’s deemed medically necessary. But in practice it’s hard to stop it.

Unfortuanately for the OP, I doubt there’s any reliable data on how this will affect women. Any fallout is still in the future, and it’s anyone’s guess how this will play out in economic terms.

It’s not just selective abortion leading to the male/female disparity.

[link=www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7716434&dopt=Abstract]Sex differences of infant and child mortality in China[/link]

Oh poo.

Sex differences of infant and child mortality in China.

Also, many more girl babies are abandoned than boy babies. The ratio in some orphanages is as high as 10 girls to 1 boy (sorry, no cite–it’s in the book).

Since it’s illegal to abandon your baby, the little girl is left in some spot where she will be found (one of my daughters was left at a bus stop, the other in the elevator at the medical clinic) and then the parents go back to the local authorities and say the baby died–fell in the river or taken by wolves or any story that explains why they can’t show the body. Then they can ask for permission to try again to have a boy.

Current estimates are that there are about 20 million missing women in the population (depending on where you get your estimates). That’s what I call a “women’s issue.”

There are documented instances (very few) where girls are sold into marriage.

Puh-leese, this is hardly a fact. Ultrasound is part of the normal medical check up for expecting mothers in Chinese hospitals. I can speak from my own personal experience in a local Shanghai maternity hospital that ultrasounds are affordable to the average Chinese and part of the healthcare.

That said, it is definately the policy to not tell the patient what the sex is. Also, I forget the name of the test where amiotic sac fluid is tested for congenital problems. This is conducted IIRC 6 weeks later than would be done in HK.

With a certain amount of effort, one can get an ultrasound done and find out the sex.

Apologies for stating this in economic terms. Just my own wag, but my feeling is that the female imbalance is starting to translate in the “economic” value of women rising in China. I think this will definately increase. There are traditional economic reasons in the countryside for wanting male children. However, as the imbalance gets greater, then the equation changes and in economic terms women are becoming a scare resource. Supply and demand implies the “economic value” of women will rise/is rising.

Since I have one daughter and two coming in January, I hope this is true. :slight_smile:

Seriously, the imbalance is a serious issue. I am not aware if anyone has studied how this is affecting the traditional priority towards male children.

Also, regarding the one child policy. It’s generally still a one child policy throughout the country. I ran up against it in Shanghai. One can have more than a single child if willing to pay the not insignificant fines and put up with serious hassles. (In my case, my daughter is a US citizen so she didn’t count as far as the one Chinese citizen child quota goes.) In some provinces and countrysides, a second child is allowed if the first is a girl. This is by no means a national law nor universally applied. Minority groups also have an exception to the one child policy (such as Tibetans).

So, you’re probably the person to ask in this instance. Since you’re having twins, who will presumably be Chinese citizens, how will the policy affect you? I assume that some sort of exemption is made for this instance, as twins are basically a biological accident, but what is it?

Would it be different for a couple who is having twins due to in vitro fertilization? Is such a procedure allowed given the possibility of multiple births?

Forgive my ignorance, I don’t know much about China’s policy.

Multiples are an exception to the one child rule.

Honestly have no idea regarding in vitro fertilization in China. I’m assuming that the practice is prohibitively expensive vis-a-vis ordinary people. Anyone that could afford in vitro could also afford the fines and hassles that come with violating the one child policy.

Puh-leese yourself. I don’t know why you have to turn insulting about it, but it is a fact.

I know you speak Chinese, but for the benefit of the others in the forum I’ll provide an English-language cite:

 [Article from the Christian Science Monitor](http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0903/p01s03-woap.html) 

which includes the information that “Ultrasound exams for non-medical purposes have been illegal since 1994”. Also, your statement that:

rather understates the case, since revealing the sex is, in fact, illegal, not just against “policy” (see above article).

bullshit. It ain’t a “fact”.

I’m hardly an apologist for the butchers in beijing. That said, ultrasounds are part and parcel of every pregnancy in my experience in Shanghai. You can go with the Christian Science Monitor, or you can go off of my experience in Shanghai. My first girl had her ultrasounds 5 years ago. My current twins have ultrasounds now.

CSM can spout off whatever BS they want, but fact of the matter is on the ground in Shanghai, an ultrasound is part of the pregancy process. Regardless of legality, it ain’t diffucult to find out what the sex of your child is.

Another ruse used by people wanting to have more than one child is to have the second child raised by relatives. This is not uncommon in Guangdong province and requires little more than greasing the palms of local officlals.

I was wondering; is the female shortage in China starting to be noticed by the general population? Are the young men looking for mates finding out that they’ve got fewer options in finding a suitable mate? What will the government do to alleviate this problem? Do they even care?

One would expect that a young woman would find it easier to ‘marry up’.

How long has this one-child policy been broadly in effect? Ie, has a shortage of 18-25 year-olds become apparent?

Wups, sorry, medstar. Usually I read the threads before posting!

Really, China Guy. There’s no need to resort to profanity. If CSM isn’t official enough for you, here are some Chinese language cites, all from pretty official sources on the mainland.

 [Government of AnHui province](http://www.ah.gov.cn/showcontent.asp?newsid={60AD3D67-3029-40EE-A172-72EAED1D579C})
 [TianJin](http://www.fmedsci.com/printpage.asp?ArticleID=853)
 [FuJian province](www.fj.xinhuanet.com/gov/2003-10/31/content_1129265.htm)
 [CCTV](http://www.cctv.com/health/special/C12725/01/index.shtml)

Though, really I’m not sure what the argument is about. You seem to be countering the claim that the law restricts a doctor’s ability to use ultrasounds as part of a patient’s prenatal care - a claim that nobody has made. That’s a “medical purpose” if ever I’ve heard one.

You also seem to take this as anti-China (or, at least, anti-China’s-government), but I don’t see it that way. One may be uncomfortable with the idea that the government can dictate what you are allowed to know about something so personal as the sex of your own child. But, given that they do retain this level of control, at least they’re using it with the right intent - to protect the girls who otherwise would not ever get to see the light of day just because they’re girls.

Well, apologies as I misinterpreted “Ultrasound exams for non-medical purposes have been illegal since 1994” as excluding normal pregnancy ultasound testing. Seems redundant to me since even an excessive number of ultrasounds can be part of prenatal care. Anyway, my bad.

That said, it’s still pretty easy to find out the sex of your child in China. Whilst the law may be on the Chinese books, I know from personal experience that although not upfront, it is neither difficult, time consuming nor expensive to find out the sex during the ultrasound.