This is an embarrassment for Iowa and an unfortunate event for whoever ends up winning.
If the app didn’t work, then the state coordinator should be demanding that the county coordinators get an Excel spreadsheet together. The thing could have been counted completely by 11pm last night.
And the winner was cheated out of his (maybe hers, but almost certainly his) bump as he was not able to give a victory address to his cheering supporters in Iowa with headlines this morning about his victory. That gets media coverage, gets more small donors and gives some big mo going into NH.
The delegate count doesn’t matter, so it is not important that Santorum won in 2012 on election day (instead of Romney) and that Paul ultimately got more delegates. All of that information was at least out there in the press and Romney and Santorum could spin a razor tight race how they wanted. Nobody was allowed that here.
***Iowa guy speaking now…about to release 62% of the results.
According to the 538 live blog, Sanders is ahead in the first choices and the post allocation votes, with Buttigieg ahead in state delegate equivalents. If this holds up for the full reporting, I’m sure both will claim victory.
I’m glad Biden appears to be in 4th by all measures.
Huh? 538 reports Sanders 26, Pete 25, Warren 21, Biden 13, Klobuchar 12. Because rural districts are slightly overrepresented, Buttigieg will actually come away with a small lead in delegates won. And this is with 62% of the vote counted and no clue as to how representative that 62% might be.
MaxTheVool’s numbers appear to be based on the State Delegate Equivalents with 62% (not 95%) of the precincts reporting. Not sure where iiandyiiii’s numbers come from; they could be from one of the two raw vote totals, but I don’t see statewide totals for those anywhere yet.
Then why did the last headline I check read "Iowa Democrat Party Chairman promises results by late afternoon’?
Sorry, my Party screwed me last time around and I’m beginning to suspect a repeat isn’t out of the question.
I’m a rather uncommon person?
Deep down I’m probably more the socialist side of Libertarian probably so -------- seeing a few very nice places where Sanders and Bloomberg overlap isn’t that odd. Sanders is a slightly more aggressive approach but …
Well at least I have something to pin my hopes on.
Yeah not only has switching parties worked for somebody, but the very guy it’s being brought up in reference to. I’m sure it figures into Bloomberg’s own calculations, that it worked for him.
But that doesn’t mean Bloomberg is right. Mayor of even a big city is a relatively non-partisan job, ‘there’s no Democrat or Republican way to pick up the garbage’ is attributed to Bloomberg’s distant predecessor as GOP mayor of NY, LaGuardia. OTOH presidential primaries are probably the most ideologically oriented election contests there are. Practicalities and personalities still enter in obviously, but the party is also in part determining it’s ideological ‘soul’ in the platform of the person it’s also naming party leader.
I don’t see any likely point where Bloomberg would become ‘unstoppable’ to get the Democratic nomination. He’s just too been too different ideologically from where the party is now, as in typical primary voters, even if he’s genuinely moved left on a number of issues over the years. Nor like older actual Democratic politicians who supported stuff which Democrats generally did, but are now anathema to many primary voters, can he say at least ‘I was with you’.
All the news sources that I’ve looked at are putting Buttigieg’s delegate win front and center, while burying Bernie’s popular vote wins. I have little doubt that we’ll be hearing complaints about this from the Bernie crowd soon, and loudly, and often.