For wired headphones, or for an output to car or house stereo. I use my phone with all three and would naturally want to leave the extra connection hardware at each location, not have to carry them around with me. So that’s a splitter and an adapter in the car, a splitter and an adapter at the stereo, and an adapter on the good headphones.
I swear on the lives of my children, I was planning to look at iPhone for my next device.
Surely they’re interested in the market outside current owners.
Absolutely they are. The biggest problem Apple faces is that it has already saturated the market of people like me, who own everything Apple. Apple is desperate to make inroads into India and China.
I guess I’m one of those users who never use the audio jack and so lose nothing from its absence. I don’t use my phone as an audio source. I’ll switch to the new 7 at some point.
I used to get a new iPhone every two years when my contract was up. My last contract ended in the summer. But now that there are no long-term contracts and no phone discounts, I’ve delayed getting a new one. I think the cellular service companies no longer linking phone discounts with their contracts will have a bigger impact on phone sales than any changes to the devices themselves.
OK. Fair enough. 
I think that it’s also fair to say that you are a corner case user.
So I’ve had my 7 for a couple of days now having upgraded from the 6. I think that the biggest problem with it is that it’s just not that much better than the 6 (and 6S) to make people want to upgrade right away. I have had every other one since the 3G and this was the first one that I wasn’t chomping at the bit to get in my hands.
It’s definitely faster, but not that much faster for my use case. It feels much more solid. I really like the haptic touch but it’s not a must have. The battery is a lot better but I rarely ran out of juice on the old one. I haven’t played with the camera yet. Most of what’s better is in iOS 10, rather than the hardware, and iOS 10 worked fine on my iPhone 6. Unlike previous software updates, they didn’t seem to hold anything back for older phones.
Since I am on AT&T, I no longer can get the subsidized plan so I am paying a monthly fee. I am only ok with this because I can upgrade for “free” every year now.
Or you could just buy one $15 pair of BT earbuds.
Wait, why would you need multiple adapters to hook up one set of wired earbuds? Oh you wouldn’t; you’re just trying to be cheekily recalcitrant.
I don’t like bluetooth. Also, this wouldn’t help with the non-headphone applications.
I don’t need any adapters for earbuds.
:rolleyes: why, did Bluetooth kill your puppy or something?
Ah, so you use that card reader thing a lot? Are you a contractor or something and that is your preferred payment method?
I know you don’t right now, because you said you use an Android phone, but what was the post I quoted about? 
Except it’s a small item that’s likely to get lost. And it’s not like Apple is going to keep shipping them. They want to get rid of the jack, and having an adapter doesn’t do that.
Also why they didn’t use a split version, so that people won’t be able to listen while charging. You leave it in your car charging, like a normal person, you can’t play music on your stereo. The idea is to provide token convenience to appease complaints, while still trying to make it as inconvenient as they can get away with.
Why not actually read the thread before responding? He doesn’t have just one set of earphones. He has multiples, in any place where he might use his phone. He also hooks it up to his car, which is yet another cord.
Bluetooth headphones require charging. This means they suck compared to anything wired. Battery tech isn’t where you can have a small device and have decent battery time. Apple’s gives four hours, for example, and they most need it to work. You have to have a full headset to get the 18+ hours you need for them to be usable.
They seem to have forgotten how Jobs actually “innovated.” He waited until the tech was there, and waited for a few people to experiment with it. Here they seem to have forgotten.
I did notice that there were much fewer lines for the iPhone 7 release. Now whether that’s due to getting stuff online and preorders, or actually a lower turn out, I don’t know. But I would not be surprised if people are more cautious on this upgrade. What exactly is the selling point of the iPhone 7?
7 is a bigger number than 6.
I just bought a 6s Plus, rather than a 7. I plan to keep it for a long, long time.
And as happens with many others, people remember his hits rather than his misses (or attribute the misses to some other cause and the hits to him).
For some reason I can’t even begin to imagine, a lot of companies do not seem to have any interest in working out how to win new customers; they seem to think that the means which have always been used are the ones that will work. They run market studies on their existing customers and adapt their publicity to them, but if you’re not one of their current consumers you’re not part of the study, you’re defined as not part of their target. Some day I hope to be able to grab a marketing expert, tie him in a corner and not let him move until he explains the reasoning behind that.
It might go the other way: both major carriers and Apple itself now have a plan where you basically make payments forever, but get the new phone every year. If you used to renew every time your 2-year contract was up with a new phone, this gives you the new phone twice as often for about the same price (although you don’t get to keep the old one at the end of each year like you did with the 2-year plans). My understanding is that a lot of people are on these new-every-year plans now.
Plus, it generates a lot of one-year-old refurbs, which gives the sellers a huge secondary source of income from people who want iPhones but don’t want the newest stuff.
No actual marketing expert on the face of the earth is unaware of the value of new customers.
Sometimes concentrating on the existing customer base is the best expenditure of money, however. Sometimes it is not. It depends on the business.
You also get a lot of stuff like the above: people with extreme outlier usage patterns and feature needs thinking that they’re representative of customers as a whole. Famously: “I just want a cell phone that makes calls, nothing else!” – they made them…they didn’t sell. Nobody in actual marketing was surprised.
No, I dislike the buzzy compression and the dropouts.
It was about audio applications other than headphones, as elaborated in the subsequent post.
Ah, I hadn’t heard of such contracts. I wonder what the net effect will be. Some users will get new phones more often, while others never buy new phones.
Sure, “buzzy compression”. :rolleyes: Dropouts? I don’t have that problem with my BT earbuds.
Hmm… I thought I was replying to a post about a hypothetical where you had an iPhone. Yep, I just checked and I was.