iPhone 7 removal of headphone jack: hate it or love it

Actually when they removed Firewire from the first unibody MacBook they brought it back in the next model.

There is a connector that has the potential to replace the 3.5 mm jack, but Apple of course didn’t choose to include it on the iPhone 7: USB-C.

Many devices that have a 3.5 mm connector also have USB for charging. If you can replace those two with a single connector that the entire industry will be moving towards that would be an improvement. In the long run, at least.

But removing something that everyone uses with something proprietary that requires secret deals with Apple is a bad thing for consumers.

If they were worried about thickness, it would have been better to come out with a thinner version of the existing plug. Create 2mm plug or something. Something that still worked the same way so you could just attach simple adapters to your headphones. It would be the same thing as the 1/4" to 3.5mm adapters we see today but only smaller. Everyone could support them and all our existing headphones would work just fine.

But with a Lightning©(TM Apple All Rights Reserved) plug, now there will be headphones which have a lightning adapter, which can only be used by Apple©(TM Apple All Rights Reserved) products or products which pay Apple©(TM Apple All Rights Reserved) a licensing fee.

I hope this fails hard. It was so nice when most of the cell phones converted to USB power plugs and I didn’t have to have a unique charger for each cell phone. I don’t want to start seeing headphones being made for each type of cell phone.

No.

Earphones are annoying. I’m just impatient for body-implant earphones - I will be an early adopter, even if they have to run a cable down inside my neck.

I’m one of the few I guess who are okay with the change.

I have never once used the jack on my current phone. I have no problems with BT headphones.

For what? The adaptor’s free in the box, as is a set of wired earbuds that work with the device. You don’t need to spend anything beyond the cost of the phone.

Very few people settle on one pair of headphones and one charging cable. They will be buying extras of both headphones and adapters and Apple will run up the licensing fees.

I’m not so cynical to think that this is Apple’s only motive, but it’s dishonest to suggest that money isn’t a motive in replacing standard connectors with proprietary connectors.

I was originally enthused about this product due to its higher capacity. I wonder if removing the headphone jack allowed them to put more disk space in it.

I doubt it. The memory in an iPhone is flash-based. The physical storage is the same no matter its memory capacity. I know that SD cards come in 256 Gb sizes and are physically identical to 8 or 16 Gb cards. iPhones don’t use SD cards, but it’s the same principle. The chip for the memory doesn’t have to be that big.

Deal breaker is too strong a word for consumer electronics (in the end, it doesn’t matter that much, and I can weigh the convenience of all the options, including not having a phone at all, without hard requirements). But this is a huge negative for me. I use wired earpieces all the time, sometimes for many hours of walking, riding, etc. A wireless device that I have to remember to charge is annoying. And the stupid looking versions that Apple will be selling will likely be lost within a week. Also, I like using the earphones while charging.

Luckily the choice is easy because the iPhone 7 looks pretty lame, and I don’t see any compelling reason to upgrade from my 6. In the past I’ve pretty regularly switched between iPhone and Android depending on what looked the most compelling at the time. This isn’t going to cause me to switch to Android when I have “keep my existing phone for longer” on the table. If I did want a new phone right now this would be a huge negative against Apple. Time will tell if that is still true years from now when I upgrade my phone. Maybe the lightning charging + earphone options available will be compelling enough to mute the downsides. I actually do hate the 3.5mm plug, and find it unreliable in general (although not specifically on my phone), but just dropping it in favor of lightning doesn’t meet my current use case.

I use earpieces almost never, so the switch is no big deal to me. I am of an age that I don’t need a 24/7 soundtrack for my life. My phone is for reading, a little light gaming, and…wait for it…phone calls. If I want to listen to music I’ll wait until I get home where there is a real stereo.

Decent compatible buds and headphones are available, but they aren’t cheap.

  1. That would still create an “Apple does it different from Everyone Else” scenario.

  2. At least it seems “Everyone Else” is going for USB3 so there will be cross-platform compatibility as long as you’re not on Apple

And now that I think of it, what with moving away from the 3.5mm jack…

… they’ll be discontinuing the remaining non-iOS iPods shortly, won’t they? Oy…

For the record, I love Apple products. I have been using Macs exclusively since 1986, and I get a lot a lot of mileage out of them (typically 8-10 years per desktop Mac, with interim upgrading of RAM and hard disks every couple of years).

What I don’t love is Apple’s headlong rush to get rid of “obsolete” technology. For example, when I bought my Power Mac G4 in 2000, I was appalled that it didn’t come with a floppy drive, so I bought an aftermarket drive that I used for a few years. Apple was right to get rid of it, but should have kept it for a bit longer, IMHO.

More recently, we were looking at laptops for my son. The current generation of MacBook Pro gets rid of the hard disk drive (so you get an SSD with half the storage capacity of an HDD for twice the price), along with dumping the ethernet port and the optical drive. Fortunately, they are still selling 2012 models that include all of this.

I’m sure that SSDs are the way to go – eventually – but for now, they’re still much too expensive. The ethernet port is still indispensable if I want to work in an area with spotty or slow wifi (like the dining room of our house), plus it’s much faster – especially if you’re downloading a 6GB OS upgrade (which are no longer available on physical media).

I’m sticking with my current 2008 Mac Pro for now because the current generation of Mac Pro is outrageously expensive, and so small that it’s not easily upgradeable…which is the only reason why I’d want one in the first place.

With respect to the iPhone, I’m not seeing much of a reason to get an iPhone 7. I currently have an iPhone 5s and am due for an upgrade, but will probably pick up an iPhone 6s instead if I can get a good deal.

Uh, no, it doesn’t. The phones are the same size as their predecessors. And the port is not a point of failure–they didn’t have to remove it to make the phone more durable. If so, then the Lightning Port would be just as big a problem.

The fact that you use extremely cheap Bluetooth headsets shows you’re not even slightly an audiophile. The quality of those things suck. They are at best as good as $1 earphones. And, yes, $20 is a lot to lose–not that I’d be worried about people stealing it. You’re pushing a 2000% price increase.

And of course people listen to music for more than 5 hours at a time, without being able to charge. It may not even be straight through. iPods already have a better life than that. Hell, my $30 Android phone can play music for about 35 hours if I turn off cellular data. And that’s still with Wi-fi on.

It really seems to me that most of the arguments for the change are based on ignorance.

They are based on people having different priorities.

For myself, I’ve never once used the jack. Maybe I’m not an “audiophile”, but I never noticed any lack using BT headphones. I have never in my life wanted to listen to music for 5 hours at a time on headphones.

Presumably, removing the jack makes space that can be used for other stuff, given that the phone will be the same size as one with the jack. Since I don’t use the jack anyway, seems to me any other use is better from my perspective.

The real issue, from Apple’s POV, is whether there are more iPhone customers like me, or more customers who are real audophiles who enjoy listening to music for extended periods of time on their iPhone. If there are more of the former, the bet on removing the jack was a good one. More of the latter, the bet was a bad one.

If I were in your shoes and planning to stick with the Apple ecosystem a bit longer, I’d plan to grab a 6s/6s+ this fall. Last chance to get a upgraded iPhone with a headphone jack and the 6s does offer some compelling advantages over the 6.

Let me guess… You are long on Apple, right?

If history is any indication, this, like every change that Apple makes, will cause a lot of grousing by people who have no skin in game, but will ultimately become the “new normal.”

As reference, I give you:
Dropping ADB for USB.
Eliminating the floppy drive.
Switching from 6800 to PPC to intel.
Switching from the 30-pin connector to Lightning (oy, the screams of anguish on that one!).
Dropping optical drives on laptops.
Dropping Firewire.
etc…

This is false

Apple does a walled garden because it protects their pocket book.

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