How tenable is the Iran-Al Qaida link? Any stronger than the Iraq-Al Qaida link?
What’s the evidence?
How credible is it?
what Iraq-Al Qaida link?
Where were you in Feb. when Colin powell made his presentation to the UN?
Then there were the papers that were found in the rubble that suggested preliminary contacts between Hussein’s regime and Al Qaida.
Then there are the many americans who think that Hussein was personally involved in the 9-11 tragedies.
I think that those paper you mention didn´t point to an al-Qaida - Iraq link, in fact they proved that an attempt to contact failed because of incompatible ideologies.
As for the third point… many americans think so… what does that prove? I´m quite sure many americans think that the sun rotates around the Earth… :rolleyes:
A link between Iran and Al Queda is probably more credible than the bogus link between Al Queda and Iraq, since Iran is, in fact, a theocratic government and Iraq was utterly secular. The link between Iraq and Al Queda was about as credible as a link between the Amish and David Koresh, based on shared Christianity.
Hi Ale. Welsome to the SDMB.
Even though it seems that you think I am, I’m not trying to establish/demonstrate/prove a connection between the AQ and Iraq.
I’ve already been up and down several MB’s about it.
Iraq was linked by the Bush admin and in the minds of many Amricans with AQ. That’s the Iraq-AQ link.
My question is about the Iran-AQ relationship. I’m asking is it on the same order as the Iraq-AQ relationship.
If you know that the Iraq-AQ link is barely there, use that as the starting point for your comparison to the Iran-AQ link.
Is there any more to the Iran-AQ link than there was to the Iraq-AQ link?
thanX luc’.
Are there any substantial allegations? Or is it just “They’re all Muslims and they all hate America,” thing again?
IIRC, Shiite theology and Wahhabi theology don’t mix that well either. I think that the Shia engage in a number of practices that teh Wahhabi regard as shirk.
SimonX, do you have a cite of any kind to any such link? Why are you posting this, if it’s simple speculation on your part?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,87778,00.html
The most recent series of bombings seem to have come out of Iran.
I am by no stretch an expert, but Wahhabism seems to represent an apparently universal human perversion, the urge to be rigid and joyless. To place the Law above the Spirit. Nearest Christian cognate is Calvinism, perhaps, but it shows up nearly everywhere.
“Jesus wept” We know it because the Bible says so. But they left out the part where he leans over to Simon and says “So…a Pharisee, a rabbi and a centurion walk into a bar…”
That was a good one.
Well, of course, its better in the original Aramaic…
There’s talk about the Pentagon officials advocating actively destabilizing Iran. The only jusification offered publicly so far is that Iran has ties to Al Qaida.
I suspect that they are as flimsy as the ties that Iraq had; however, I don’t know. So…
Here I am with the most people who have the most up to date analyses of current events that I know asking for the nature and credibility of the Iran-Al Qaida link.
Here’s a link to thread on the destabilization of Iran by the US.
OK, Simon X, I see what you´re talking about… and to be honest what I see is that so far the US goverment got away with it in respect to Iraq, and I don´t doubt they´d try it again in Iran if it serves it´s agenda. This almost subliminal insinuations really piss me off; I hate manipulative people.
Well. U.S. Intelligence said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We believed them, and 80% of us supported our troops to invade Iraq, just to find out that we were really bullshitted by our government into a war for yet unexplained reasons, as there is no sign of any WMDs in Iraq.
Now, the same U.S. Intelligence “sources” are telling us that Iran is harboring Al Qaida and building Nuclear Weapons. I suppose we should believe them “sources” and help the Iranians overthrow the detested Ayatollahs’ regime?
After all, we did it in Iran in 1953. Why not do it again in 2003? The big question: To meddle or not to meddle.
Clearly, you have not yet read The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal.
(It really is a pretty good book, incidentally.)
Meh… not quite true… the CIA never really backed that up. Certain people at the Pentagon decided to believe sources who were saying what they wanted to hear. Okay, let’s not make this into a hijack, I’ll quit now at return to the topic at hand.
–Just in case it’s worth noting, I thought the Iraq-Al Qaeda thing was bullshit from the start–
I think this is more credible than a link with Iraq. For me, that’s a far cry from saying it’s true. I’d need to see evidence, and you need proof for this stuff in my irrelevant 
opinion. Iran has demonstrably cooperated with the terrorism effort lately, that we do know. Not that that’s the final word on the subject, as Pakistan cooperates and is still Al Qaeda’s most likely source for weapons.
Welcome, WUC.
What was presented regarding the Iraq-AQ link were irresponsible misrepresentations, at best. It really made me feel like Winston Smith to find out that Livermoore Nat’l Labs were ordered not to answer any questions about the aluminum tubes- not even to our congressmen. That smacks of deliberate…
Missed that little nuance of calculated mendacity. I’d hate to be ignorant of any example of pure Bushwah. (But there are so many! So many!)
Cite, if you would be so kind?