I didn’t know. Like I said, all you had to do was prove it.
So, “whither goest the profits?” Is that another rhetorical question or are you really curious?
Very curious. Bush as already stopped any lawsuit on the matter of Iraqi oil.
See executive order 13303 above.
I nearly posted, with similiar statements as Airman Doors, USAF. He said them better than I did, so I’ll leave that post in the delete bin.
If I’m understanding correctly, your point is that you think the oil contractors won’t be spending the money in the correct places… but that doesn’t make any sense. Doesn’t the government in Iraq, that we put in place, decide where the money would go? Perhaps I’m wrong, I’m really not well educated on the workings of this type of situation, so do educate me, if anyone knows.
To the first poster:
Sorry, may I ask you what my contry is?
To the poster who think the USA has the right :
No the USA has no “right” at anything.
The USA is a criminal invader and coloniser of the sovereign nation Iraq in breach with the international law and violating day by day second by second that international law and the geneva conventions.
Why and how are you brought to believe the USA has any “right” to colonise an other nation?
Aldebaran.
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The second part is a subsection of the first, so the “null and void” part applies to “interests therein, in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest”.
In other words, France and Russia ain’t getting their gun money. Too bad.
The USA has nothing to see with any “government of Iraq” and nothing to do with "putting a government in place.
The USA is a criminal coloniser. Why don’t you get that?
And to say it with the words of the criminal you have put in the White House:
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
Because what you witness now as opposition in Iraq wont go away. It is just the beginning.
Your criminal government had no idea about that country. They think they can make those people become US slaves who are going to let themselves rule by the USA and a puppet installed to obey the USA, genre Chalabi. (Who by the way is a convicted criminal in fraude cases).
You should think again.
May I ask which one of the American posters here was ever outside the USA? And who was ever in the Middle Eastern region?
Aldebaran
Well, your initial post and the frequent use of the word “you” leads me to believe it isn’t the US. And if it isn’t the US, then really, it doesn’t matter what country it is.
Actually, Al Gore said “You ain’t seen nothing yet”. And frankly, after 9/11, I think he would have been handling things in approximately the same way. He would almost certainly have been better diplomatically, though.
And I was in the Middle Eastern region. What of it? In my experience they liked us just fine.
Now that’s a great attitude. You really want it to be the US against everyone else?
No, not particularly. In fact, I agree with all the criticisms you’ve made in this thread. I think the US forcing Iraq to sell oil to Israel undercuts any sort of authority or perceived legitimacy that the new government (if there ever is one) will have.
I don’t agree with the war in Iraq. I think it was short-sighted and dumb for a number of reasons. I don’t think Iraq was a threat and I think that we should have let the inspectors take more time if they wanted it and dealth with more pressing issues.
That said, Aldebaran annoyed me with his empty bluster. In reality, there’s not much that the rest of the world can or will do about it. So to make annoying threats is counter productive and highly unrealistic. So I pointed that out.
You don’t understand. The US is not forcing anyone to sell the oil. The US controls the oil. We decide everything that goes on in Iraq. There is no Iraqi government. And I’m not sure there ever was any real plans to have one.
Well "ennoying " or not, what I write is the naked truth.
And if you don’t know where I’m from, then what are you talking about? I could easily be an American or let you believe I’m an American. But frankly I’m at this point in American history very glad the I’m not.
And about writing some grammatical errors in English: May I ask you how many languages you speak and write?
Aldebaran.
No, I do understand. I’m aware that the US is in control of the country right now and I doubt there were real plans to have one. However, there will be one eventually, even if it is just a figurehead puppet and the selling of oil to Israel will continue with that, undercutting the perceived legitimacy that government will have.
The US right now IS forcing Iraq to sell oil to Israel, in that I don’t think they would do it if the US wasn’t there.
No, it’s annoying. Not ennoying. At least copy correctly.
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Again, if you aren’t from America, then it doesn’t matter where you are from. You’re country can’t do anything about, nor will it do anything about it. So making vague threats is rather silly. And it’s pretty easy to tell you aren’t American.
I haven’t made any comments on your grammatical errors, so I don’t know why you are bringing that up with me. But if you must know, I speak two languages - English and Spanish. I’ve lived in three countries, the US, the UK and Spain. I’ve visited on vacation France, Canada, Mexico (several times) and a few others.
So now that I’ve answered your questions, how about you give us a little bio about yourself?
Well, I’m not informed in detail about this but I knew before this invasion started that it was part of the plan. The next one is to have a water pipeline towards Israel.
It is typical for the lack of diplomacy and self governent among US politicians that they can’t even wait until the dust of their bombs is settled to obey the Israely lobby.
What do you think is the reaction on this in the rest of the region? And I don’t speak on government- and political level. I speak about the reaction in the street, once the population gets informed about this. The same question counts for the reaction inside Iraq.
Aldebaran.
I have relatives and friends in the UAE, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, not yet visited, however. I want to, of course, I think it would be nice to see the world from another angle.
’The USA has nothing to see with any “government of Iraq” and nothing to do with "putting a government in place.'
We should just let the country fall to pieces without a government? I don’t think I agree, with that. Criminal reasons for removing the Iraqi government or not, is completely irrelavent. We removed the government. So now we’re replacing it. How do you expect order to be restored without one?
Alderaban where are you from? Oh and a tip from me, not every Westerner is an ignornant pig, our governments can be a pain the ass sometimes, but they have generally done the right thing and on some occasions bad things, but don’t you think even if it were true that America is a coloniser would you rather have it under American administration or have another day under the Hussein and Ba’ath banner? Think about that.
If you don’t…
How do I expect a government to see light in Iraq?
By organising elections.
But this is where the USA is completely incompetent seen the fact they have no clue about that country.
That is why the UN should get involved, and rather quickly because if it goes on like it is developping now, you have in no time a completely uncontrolable situation.
And if you want my opinion about which country of the UN is placed the best to take the lead, since someone has to be in the lead anyway: that is the UK. They have a long history of colonisation there which wasn’t all that good. But which gives them at the very least insight in the problematics and the sensitivities they have to deal with.
Neurotic,
Sorry to point it out to you, but you act like a peasant. When in my country someone shows the courtesy to speak to us in our own language, we admire that and respect the visitor for it. And we congratulate him/her with his knowledge, no matter how limited that may be.
Further: on an other thread I explained that grammatical errors in my post will show up frequently no matter which language I use. I’m dyslexic and whenever I get a bit tired (it is 2.30 AM overhere) dyslexia takes over. Yet I speak and write more then 10 languages; I’m a linguist.
I appreciate it when you point out my flaws in the English language, because that is a language I never studied, actually.
Aldebaran.
Well, It happens to be a widespread attitude on message boards like this that everyone who doesn’t agree with the USA must be an “enemy” of the USA (that word “enemy” has many variations) and of course “Muslim”.
So if you don’t mind, I rather don’t go into questions about myself for now until we get to know eachother better.
Aldebaran.
Well, It happens to be a widespread attitude on message boards like this that everyone who doesn’t agree with the USA must be an “enemy” of the USA (that word “enemy” has many variations) and of course “Muslim”.
So if you don’t mind, I prefer not to go into questions about myself for now until we get to know eachother better.
Aldebaran.