Tony is at the car races and he’s attacked by Electric Whip Cracking Guy. Along come Tony’s friends, and they use their car to slam EWCG into a guardrail. Was there any indication in the movie that his body was invulnerable? It didn’t even seem to slow him down.
None that I saw. I wondered why nobody just shot him. Those whips don’t have that much range.
I think he’s just Russian.
Earlier in the scene, Tony hits Vanko in the back of the head with a piece of his car, and it doesn’t even faze him.
He was wearing an armored exo skeleton i believe.
It’s a comic book movie. Even in non comic book action movies, people shrug off falls and gunshot wounds that would send a real person to the hospital for weeks, if not to the morgue.
And Iron Man (Tony Stark) should really just be a puddle of goo at the bottom of the suit with some of the accelerations and stops he pulls.
Here’s the scene. He had on a harness for his arc reactor & whips, but there was no indication that it was protecting him in any way. And it didn’t extend down to where the car hit him anyway.
I’m not sure I agree; those baggy pants look like they get torn by the end of the fight, and it looks to me like you can see something metal there: right at the knee, at least? For all I know, the exoskeleton included leg braces.
In comic books, armor also protects the parts of the body that it doesn’t cover.
Hmm, you’re right. And that’s probably what let him throw Iron Man around with the whips earlier in the scene too.
Yup, i see leg braces. I always assumed it was an armored suit loosely based on Iron Man’s.
Inertial dampers set to maximum. Or whatever.
In Apocalypto, the protagonist is speared through the chest. He pulls the spear out, and leads his pursuers on a 50 mile footrace through the jungle. He merely stops to grimace at one point.
" Electric Whip Cracking Guy"
Whiplash.
And thus, he has no fucks to give.
Stark isn’t salsaed by his suit, because the interior of his suit is packed full of repulsors, set to penetrate sufficiently that all of the parts of his body are accelerated at the same rate. Acceleration isn’t actually harmful; it’s just when different parts of your body have different accelerations.
Repulsors do not appear to be some kind of inertia nullifier; they’re just a really effective ion thruster. We see a mass flow of some kind from boot and palm repulsors, and also we don’t see the kind of thrust effects one would expect from such a powerful directed thrust, we do see things being blown around by the exhaust.
As far as Vanko (Whiplash), it’s not shown that he has any kind of exoskeleton suit other than the ARC Reactor and whip harness (which burns away the upper part of the jumpsuit he is wearing). I think it is just supposed to indicate that Vanko is such a tough son of a bitch that you can run a Bentley straight into him and mash him into a wire fence and he по́хую. In the MCU, Russians appear to be a different and possible Enhanced species of human that are extraordinarily resilient, which would also explain how Natasha Romanov can have withstood the various crushes, falls, and explosions and not be suffering from severe CTE.
The stranger thing is how it takes Tony 19 seconds (timed it) to put on his suit, and Vanko is apparently doing nothing except standing there and watching instead of cutting away the car and attacking a helpless Stark in mid-assembly. No wonder Stark spent the interventing time until the next film continuously improving his suits to be quick-donning and prehensile; he can’t rely on all of his opponents as being similarly slow witted.
Also, Pepper Potts is just the worst. She and Happy drove out there specifically to give him the Iron Suitcase Suit, and then she wastes tens of seconds crying and screaming in argument instead of just throwing him the damn case and getting out of harm’s way. Man, I hope she’s the first one to go in the next film since they wussed out on killing her in Iron Man Three.
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Exactly. There are tons of villains…pretty much ALL of Spideys that could be taken out by a sharpshooter.
We’ve discussed that here before. The time of the scene is how long the film takes to show us the multiple angles of the assembly, in other words, the legs are forming simultaneously with the chest, back, etc, we just happen to see it in sequence. Also, we can’t rule out that this is Matrix-esque “bullet time” – those precious seconds it takes the leg armor to interlock one by one is for movie audience benefit – it may have happened all at once in the Marvel universe.
I will grant that there are precious seconds wasted by Vanko when Tony catches the football, and pulls the handles. No way should you let an opponent do anything like that if you can stop it – even if you don’t know whats going to happen – just whip that whtever out of his hands. However, in the movies and the comic books, Vanko, the Mandardin and Hammer are locked into a Riddler/Joker vs Batman-esque (am I using that too much?) meme. You can’t just kill the hero, not after all the shiat you’ve been through, you have to let him try and fail and be humiliated and then die. Seriously, how successful is he going to be: he’s an alcoholic, playboy, rich kid, product of a decadent American culture. Hey, Marvel didn’t say that, the Nazi, Japanese and Soviet government, in our world, routinely spoke like that.
I also believe, in the first film, Tony wears a pressure suit underneath his first armor assembly. OK, that black unitard he’s wearing as the assembly line robots apply pieces of his armor is visually its nothing like a real US Air Force pressure suit. But I just assumed it has as advanced functionality to prevent G-force damage as Stark Industries repulsor technology has over real world technology.
One factor is that I think Vanko was surprised that Tony was in the car - he expected Tony to be in the stands watching the race, and hoped to humiliate Tony by destroying the Stark-branded car with a super-suit, just after Tony had publicly stated that no one could produce such a suit but Tony (and further expected that Tony would stay in the stands, thus appearing as a coward). Having Tony turn up right in front of him was unexpected, and it took Vanko a moment to reconsider his plans.