How much longer are you going to pretend you’re arguing against these people?
I’ve seen it. It is not nearly as impressive as you (continually, weirdly) insist it is.
Not true at all. That’s what these people want you to think or what you want us to think, but it’s a view held by a small (but obsessive) group of people who are unlikely to gain a whole lot of additional adherents. It’s true that there’s a fair amount of xenophobia happening in Europe, unfortunately.
No, “we” haven’t.
Gee, even though you don’t believe any of this stuff, you somehow accepted their point of view about everything including “our” attitude, language, and blame. That’s odd.
It’s a privilege to have jerks think of you as an enemy.
…you think racists have the moral high ground over non-racists because the non-racists haven’t been nice enough? Sure.
They may not go away, but they’re silly.
No, they aren’t. Again, it’s possible to get this impression from listening to these people and their frothing and spamming around the Internet, but they’re not a mass movement. They’re a small and angry minority.
Friend, you have to remove yourself from venues populated by utter morons. I know you’re obviously not a moron, but if you keep hanging out with them, others may get the wrong idea. As noted more than a few times in this thread, those morons are not grounded in reality and they are not going to change bar something extraordinary happening. And, if something extraordinary causes a change, it will likely be just one or two, at the most a handful of those morons, climbing out of their cesspit.
That’s formidable? You jest. First off, there is no “massive third world immigration.” Remember, though, that even one non-White (as they, not the rest of us, define the term) is massive to them.
Well, I guess yes, assuming that “foce assimilated into” means “immigrants will be protected by law from being discriminated against on the basis of their race, ethnicity, or national origin.”
I’m still unclear on what countries are White countries.
The UN doesn’t make laws. Their use of that term, as if you need any more, is proof that they’re a few cards short of a deck, a few bricks shy of a load, a few atoms short of a mole, etc. And, yes, race is an identifiable group when taken as the cultural construct it is. It’s just not so easy to identify a person’s race by looking at that person.
The “White race” is not a social construct. It’s a bullshit term used by very lame bullshit artists.
Nor is anyone intelligent saying that there’s one Black race. There are African-Americans, Jamaicans of African origin, and a few other cultures and sub-cultures with Black or African as part of that (sub)culture’s identifying characteristic. Same goes with Asian. Nobody intelligent is saying there’s one Asian race.
I’m still unclear on what constitutes a White country.
No, it’s not. And the expression, “Atni-racist is a code word for anti-White” is a red flag indicating the person bandying it around seriously is, in fact, a racist SOB. Heck, it’s a veritable muleta!
Again, you can’t educate someone beyond their ability. These idiots you are attempting to engage with reason and facts are immune to both. They are simply morons and racist SOBs. You’d be better served educating their potential victims so that they don’t get new victims/recruits other than the poor sods born to said morons.
I recommend you find a better place to hang out. Say, the SDMB, for example.
Or, put another way, they reject our reality and substitute their own. We’re not talking here about casual racists with a kneejerk social or esthetic distaste for nonwhites. We are talking about the much smaller minority of white people who regard their “race” as their primary identity-group, transcending all others, and who form their entire political, social, moral and even religious world-views around that premise.
I must applaude formulaone’s masterful feint, no wait I mustn’t. Formulaone, unless you’re suffering from some sort of Stockholm syndrome with regard to your racist friends or associates I’m going to disrespectfully suggest that you’re the racist and are too cowardly to just spout your racist nonsense and let it be shot down. Be an out-and-out internet racist, we’ll have marginally more respect for you than if you continue with this stealth racist hogwash persona.
formulaone, all of the supposedly “formidable” arguments you are listing from the racist side are mostly fact-free, mostly logic-free, or both. To most of us they are tired and weak arguments, and we’ve heard them all before for many decades. On the off chance you are actually worried about these arguments (rather than a “pro-white” poster in a poor disguise), they are all easily refutable.
Oh, good. Apparently we’ve stopped indulging the OP’s paper-thin facade of looking for arguments to use against these White Supremacist friends of his…
You may be referring to the ideas ascribed to various groups, but you are not being sufficiently clear that these comments are not directed toward other posters.
Be sure to avoid making comments that are intended to insult posters.
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EVERYONE needs to tone down the personal comments.
I have no idea whether formulaone has been misled into believing that the ideas expressed are common “white” beliefs from living or working in a white, racist ghetto or if formulaone is trying to use irony or some other rhetorical device to make a point, but attacks on the ideas presented still need to avoid attacks on the person.
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Freedom to migrate anywhere and procreate with whomever one chooses are human rights that should not be abridged at all. Borders and immigration are still far too restricted. No one should become a criminal for moving.
And these restrictions grow as the difficulty of travel decreases. I can now, barring legalities, if I wanted, move into a house across the world within weeks. Compared with almost impossible a century ago. This is progress. These are good things. Like the internet being fought by ancient publishers, ease of migration is being fought by bureaucrats and racists. And just like the publishers, they will adapt or lose.
Far from “genocide”, you are arguing against one of the great cultural advances in human history, one that should be encouraged by opening borders and eliminating bureaucracy. There is nothing special about your skin color. And no one is making you discard your “values” unless your values are bigotry and closed mindedness.
Pass on your ideals and culture, and stop giving a shit what color your great great great grandkids will be. Because seriously, who cares?
