Is anyone else unable to hold a grudge?

I have two big grudges, and I think the reason they still both resonate with me is because both situations were so inexplicable.

The first is against the guy who incited another guy to split my lip with a bottle. I recounted that in a recent Pit thread, don’t want to go over it again, and I actually have found that it’s lessened a bit since I shared it. So I’ll share this, and perhaps it’ll help as well.

I was in my last year of college, hanging out with two of my closest friends, and a new guy. Now, before you get halfway through this, you’re probably going to be saying, “And you stayed friends with these people?” I’ll state upfront that my friends did choose me over the new guy, after what happened. They completely excommunicated him. And yet that’s still not enough for me.

So what happened? Well, I arrived, was introduced to the new guy, we all smoked up, and then Clint was called to the hall phone. (I wonder how different my life would be if cell phones had been around in my teens and more prevalent in my early twenties.) The new guy, whose name I don’t recall so I’ll call him Dick, was chanting along with a punk tape he’d put in (we were big Led heads and Floydians, but had these crazy ideas about being open to new things). He also had a lot to say about racism. In fact, it was pretty much his only topic of conversation. He was African-American, you see, and therefore every white person was out to get him. Except he didn’t seem to mind going to school with them or hanging out with them or sharing their weed.

Dick also started subtly baiting me, asking what I liked to listen to. “This, that, the other…Beethoven…” “Ew, opera!” “No, Beethoven only wrote one opera.” “Ew, opera!” I know it doesn’t sound like much, but there was a definite aura of menace. Also, to put this in some context, this was after the LAPD trial, but before OJ. So there was more tension in the US than there is now. Still, jeez.

At some point, Kevin, who was a sweetheart but not the sharpest tool in the shed, also left the room for a reason I don’t recall. He told me afterwards that it simply never crossed his mind that I shouldn’t have been left alone with Dick. But he was so mellow, he made Tommy Chong look uptight, so I can understand why he wouldn’t pick up on the signals I was catching. And I thought for sure that either he or Clint would be back any second.

Long story short, Kevin came back to find Dick and I wrestling for possession of one of Clint’s Zep tapes (I hadn’t wanted to hear the punk tape a second time). I’m here to tell you, that mofo was strong. Skinny, but very very wiry, and he fought dirty. He kept bending his fingers around the cassette, so I couldn’t get a grip on it, like a two-year-old. Well, not even Kevin could let that slide, so he pulled us apart, put the Zep tape in, and made a comment to the effect of “Don’t be like that…She’s good people…”

Well, I’ve blocked out exactly what Dick’s accusations were, but the whole thing culminated in my getting in Dick’s face, saying that I was not a racist, then screaming in his ear that I was not a racist, then kneeling on his legs, still screaming that I was not a racist, while he turned his face away and made “blah blah blah” motions with his mouth. At which point I lunged away and stormed past an utterly stunned Kevin out into the hall. Clint was still on the phone, and when I informed him that it was Dick or me, he went back into the room and told Dick he had to leave.

Dick left without protest, thank Og, and then Kevin and I explained what had happened, which left Clint drop-jawed. I stayed a bit longer, then left. Next day, I’m told, Dick showed up again, and Clint told him he was no longer welcome under any circumstances. Dick’s reply: “You racist mutha…” To which Pete, who had been filled in on this, responded, “That’s right; we’re all racist mutha…s! So why do you want to hang out with us?” Good old Pete. Why couldn’t he have been there that night?

It really didn’t take as long as it probably sounds. Twenty minutes, maybe. But how long does it take someone who’s really skilled at pushing buttons? The other stuff, about my musical preferences, was probably something he pulled on everyone, but the racism accusations are the real reason I hold such a grudge.

Race issues are very, very important to me. I don’t claim to take the center square, and in fact, I have done and said some things that I’m not proud of. But calling me racist half an hour after he’d met me – WTF? How was I racist? Did I refuse to sit next to him? No. Did I clutch my purse, or in this case, backpack, the instant I saw him? No. Did I pull my hand away if we reached for the ashtray at the same time? No. And for crying out loud, Scott was black, Baron was black, and Eli was black. But Scott and Baron weren’t there that night either, and Eli lived off campus.

So getting back to the post I quoted, this whole incident was a misunderstanding. And I still can’t understand why. Why hang out with people in a demographic you hate, just to make them hate you? Why pick a fight, with a girl no less, just for the sake of it? I don’t know; I only know that he succeeded in his goal, and that’s the other reason it resonates with me: because I let him. Nothing like that has happened since, though. I think it comes down to “Mutha… crazy.”

I can’t hold a grudge at all. I have to purposely remind myself over and over and over throughout time to make myself remember. Otherwise, I forget how horrible a person is and then I get hurt or used again. It sucks because, as Father Gutierrez said in series The Young Pope, “I never resent anyone. That’s my main problem.” I agree with that completely. I have a hard time settings boundaries and keeping them because, well, I pretty much just forget. :smack:

Since someone is going to say it, I only hold grudges against people who dredge up dead old threads. :smiley:

Not really but someone was going to say it. Rion, we don’t have hard and fast rules against it but most people prefer when you start new threads even when its a topic we’ve had before unless you are adding something new. We call them (the risen dead threads) “zombie” for various reasons.

It takes a lot to build up a grudge for me but once I have one against you it will last forever, until the end of time. I don’t like the fact, as I resent having to give up head-space to mean people, but I cannot forget, unfortunately.

I can’t hold a grudge, I don’t take anything personally, and I haven’t been mad in years.
Growing up my mother was a raving, verbally abusive, bipolar, lunatic. I left home at 16, and I swore I’d never be like her. Which wasn’t hard to accomplish because I’m not like her. I just needed to not be near her to see that.

It is REALLY hard to get me mad, plus it is physically impossible for me to hold a grudge. As far as I know, I’ve never held a grudge. My dad is probly the worst person I know, he has done some horrible crap to me, but I can’t hold a grudge against him. My entire family hates his guts, but for some reason, I don’t care. I just don’t. It’s got to be a disorder of some kind.Another thing about it though, I find it really hard to understand when and why other people are mad. I end up offending people a lot because I’m really bad at understanding what is going to make somebody mad about something or why somebody is still mad about something.

There are different levels of what people refer to as “hold a grudge”.

If you’ve been going to your regular gas station for many years who changes personnel frequently and all the sudden the new guy fails to wipe your windshield, holding a grudge to never return to the place again is silly.

But someone intentionally mistreating you by discounting your feelings and ignoring your well being, that isn’t silly at all.

Perhaps you don’t value yourself enough to want to truly acknowledge the poor behavior and actions of others. Maybe you feel like you deserve this and this is why you don’t form the feelings of being upset by their actions. And holding a grudge doesn’t mean you spend every day of your life being upset by this, it means you decided that you decided you don’t deserve this poor treatment and limit your involvement with them. This is also known as being a “push over” where you are glad anyone is paying attention to you even if it is bad attention.

Oh god yes THIS. This has been my standard operating procedure for much of my adulthood.

You know what’s interesting? Age has a way of softening those intense hit-them-in-the-gut feelings. When I think back on incidents which made me feel that intense, I no longer feel that intensity. Instead, they float around on their own cloud somewhere around me but they’re no longer part of me.

But yes, I’m also of the “screw me twice and you’re on my shit list” school. Instead of holding grudge against you, you’ll be dead to me, figuratively and literally.

Can’t hold a grudge. I want to, but I just forget the bad feelings after a while and then consider everything more important than some old dust up. It’s probably for the better, a grudge would probably me motivate me to do stupid things. I do enough of those already.

I cannot hold a grudge. I will be extremely pissed off and fired up, but then I calm down. I just can’t do it.

Does “not holding a grudge” mean wholly forgiving and forgetting AND continuing to associate will u people who’ve hurt you? If so, I’m only halfway there.
To use a random example, I bear my ex-wife no ill will. None. But I don’t ever want to see her again.

So… Am I holding a grudge?

No, you simply do not have the trust for the person that you once did.

Personally, I don’t give people second chances, because every time I do, it blows up in my face. I learned not to. I don’t hate the person or hold a grudge, I just recognize they are incapable of being different, and I do not trust them as they are not willing to be reasonable. Being in the midst of not holding a grudge and not trusting a person is a gray/neutral area. It all depends on what they’ve done to you and how you gauge it personally.

Example:
If you date a person for a while and it doesn’t work out, because one or both of you tries to change the other person to suit themselves, no need to hold a grudge. If you date someone for a while and their was violence involved or very below the belt, cruel things said, by all means hold a grudge. It depends on how much you are willing to forgive and forget, but there is a limit that becomes stupidity. People do not change readily if at all. If someone screws you over once, they are likely to do it again, I’d say even more likely to the second time.