is being lazy bad

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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Its my life, like the bon jovi song said.

I am academically intelligent, like both my brothers and both my brothers are planning on getting advanced medical degrees. one wants a DDS, other wants an MD and a PhD. The one that wants a DDS already has a BA & MA. The one that wants an MD is finishing his math BS degree right now.

I on the other hand want to get an AS or BS in nursing, chemistry or (possibly) engineering and work part time. With a few years experience and the right workplace i could probably pull down $18-27k a year working 24 hours a week. That is very liveable since i have no wife, no kids, and am willing to get a roommate. Luxuries (bigger house, more luxurious car, extra spending cash) mean little to me.

i feel kind of bad though. even though its my life and my career i feel bad about ‘enjoying life’ instead of fighting to get a graduate degree so i could make $35-40/hr after i get 10 years of experience in my chosen field (whatever that will be). I have heard european culture (whatever that is as Europe is 15+ soverign nations with varying histories) is sort of like that, they consider work to be something to do to fund your personal, private fun life while americans consider work to be something to take alot of pride in, dedicate yourself to and use as social status. The fact that americans work about 200-500 hours a year more than Europeans and that our workweek is generally 5 hours longer is an extension of this mindset. Americans work to buy bigger, better luxuries and Europeans work to (keep in mind this is a generalization. if you’re going to post a 140 sentence thesis on why im wrong go ahead but im admitting right now that its a generalization).

dont know why im posting this just felt like it i guess.

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Europeans work to provide for themselves and provide for their lives outside of work.

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I’m a ** huge ** Bon Jovi fan and I have to say…
If you actually got off your ass to buy that CD, you are not as lazy as 99.99999% of the population.

Smile, and sing “Just Older” unitl you feel better.

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I don’t see any reason to feel bad. I’m only planning on working for something to do until I have kids. My feminist friends want to filet me alive for that.:slight_smile:
Diffrent people contribute in diffrent ways, and that’s ok.
Smile

Torie

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You plan to earn qualifications then get a job and you consider yourself lazy? Lower your standards friend.

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Lazy people drop out of high school and collect welfare checks. You just sound like you’re not particularly ambitious. Which is fine.

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I don’t think it’s always a good idea to compare yourself to others. Some people love to work, regardless of the type of pay. I think it’s very important to enjoy life, working or not. You must do whatever you are comfortable doing. You may change your philosophy later. Circumstances can change. Re: vacation time for U. S versus Europeans, I think I take as much time (if not more) as my European friends. But I work for me. I think “lazy” would be living with mom and dad and not working,… ~FWIW

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I think lazy is a great trait, to an extent. It is the lazy who come up with ingenious new things to make life easier. I consider myself a little lazy, as I’m always to do things in a way that is easier, yet produces results of the same quality. It works for me!

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I was going to reply, giving a European viewpoint … but I can’t be bothered. :smiley:

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I agree. lazy is someone who won’t do anything to help themselves, expecting everyone else to help them. Lacking ambiton, adn initiativbe, well that is justa a trait of a man. And don’t forget to remember procrastination. Why do today waht can be done next week. :stuck_out_tongue:

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And remember laziness is its own reward.

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If it’s naughty to vamp the men,
Sleep each morning till after ten—
Let a lady confess, I Wanna be Bad!

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But England isn’t in Europe

:dubious: :smiley:

Haha, I think we are in the exact situations there, my friend. I am 21 years old, and I am about 3 semesters from having a degree in International Studies. I never did like that about America very much, and probably why I like spending so much time in Europe. After having lived in Spain for 6 months and Germany for 8 it will truely change your perceptions about America, let me tell you. And no, you aren’t lazy. I think it says good things about you.

you and me both, buddy. However, I am not going to feel guilty about doing something like that, but I hope it isn’t a negative mark on any future employment or education prospects. The only problem is that in most places in America, it isn’t the norm to do such things. I know all too many people that jumped headlong into a career after they got their Bachelor’s degree and never took a break since. Its very sad actually, i guess they suppose that their job defines them. What I plan on doing is taking advantage of my youth and my willingness to move abroad or anywhere and be paid little, to land myself some pretty unique experiences. In my opinion, that’s what I am interested in. The experiences are what matters in my opinion, not the fancy car. Because the unique experiences you make for yourself are simultaneously your own creation and completely unique. So why work to buy a car when its simply an expression of yourself that you had to buy and there are thousands like it?

Beats me. But yeah, if you wanna be with a group of similar people, I would suggest moving to a bigger city, as I doubt it will be possible to meet many such people in a smaller town. Its a really cool thing about Europe. People still like to go out and have fun. There will be much older people mixing in the bars with the 40 year olds, which is really cool, in my opinion.

I won’t get started about all the things that I have realized that I don’t like about America, but to be honest, Europeans seem to have it more together concering social lives and their goals. Its getting worse, i’ll admit, and becoming more Americanized, but at this point its not as bad. For instance. I’m sure you’ve asked some friend of a friend what they study. You would probably feel embarassed after learning that they aren’t college, because you made the faux pas of metioning the inferiority in the most important aspect of Americanism. Jobs, or future jobs. In Europe, you don’t sense that as much. People don’t seem dreadfully depressed if they don’t have any chance of making it rich.

Honestly, I believe you are making a good choice, that will most likely lead to a much more rewarding life than that of the typical.

Whoo that was t oo long i suppose, and as I am basicaly in the same situation as you I suppose that my advice isn’t as of much help as you would have liked, but, well its there.

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I don’t think it’s lazyness. And it’s not bad either.

It’s your culture’s idea that one is supposed to be ambitious in a material sense, and you don’t feel that way.

I have a friend who’s gone down the who-cares-about-wealth-route and he’s a happy chap as far as I can tell. My sister down-shifted from a London office job to be a gardener out in the country. People do choose a (materially) ‘lower standard of living’ for their own reasons.

I could probably have made more money if I’d worked in London, or gone contracting, but I don’t have the ambition to go for a more stressful or risky job.

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Horses for course. If lazy means not picking a degree which will result immediately in a lucrative profession then colour me lazy (“What do you say to the newly graduated geologist?”, “Whoppa and Fries please.”).

If lazy means doing so little work at colleague that you end up with a degree that is two grades lower than you could get with “normal” amounts of application (or perhaps “low average” amounts if you are that bright)? Well then I just think you might regret it.

You cannot have your whole life planned out right now but your values might change somewhat - sure not radically but money might be more of an issue . Say, if you suddenly meet Ms Right who wants to get married and have kids earlier than you currrently plan on.

Not fulfilling your potential in the field you pick might be classed as “bad” but potential does not mean doing the thing that pays the most but doing that feels right for you, in a way that feels right. Not stepping on anyone else’s fingers, right?

Sounds like you have your head screwed on. If you are bright and have a decent degree in anything you’ll do fine.

Advice from that man that walked a total of about 100 yds at the weekend, and got out of bed at the crack of noon both days… :rolleyes: :wink: