I want to switch to Innocent.
The defense, in particular the second autopsy by Spitz, is driving holes in the prosecution’s case big enough to drive a stagecoach thru.
What did he say that made you change your mind?
Is he the one who’s quibbling that Caylee’s skull wasn’t opened in the first autopsy?
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Frankly the only defense that I think she has is the ‘I’m bat shit crazy’ defense.
I think we agree that Casey is ‘…bat shit crazy’, she is a poor mother, she is selfish, a liar, and almost certainly a criminal, but nobody has yet proved to me that Casey committed m1, and I especially do not like the way the prosecution wants to withhold evidence, and the way the prosecution objects all the time and does not let defense witnesses testify to facts about the case.
That’s their job. Every jury trial is like that.
I personally think the mistress is the lead that to the “key” that will solve this case. If a complete investigation of George is done, we will find out what really happened, and we will find that Casey did NOT kill her daughter.
George and the mistress can give us the missing pieces which will make everything about this case “fit”, and until EVERYTHING fits, we are going up the wrong tree by putting Casey on trial because only the truth fits completely with no loose ends.
I hope that there is somebody on that jury that knows that there really are! coyotes in Florida, lots of them, and in residential areas, and also, that the most likely explanation of a bone being found buried 4 inches down after just a few months, is most likely because an animal/dog/coyote did buried it.
It is insulting for the prosecution to laugh and make fun at the thought of a bone being buried and for the prosecution to lie about coyotes not being in Florida. Big lie, and a Big mistake if I was on that jury.
So you changed your mind based on a possibility that there is some earth shattering info from the mistress?
I’m curious, if George did go to trial, would you also hold that he was innocent because Casey could have possibly committed the murder?
Like I said in the other thread, Susanann, the authorities have done a very thorough and complete investigation of George, among other people. And they came up with exactly zero evidence of any wrongdoing on his part.
And if this mistress, who did not know anyone in the Anthony family at the time of Caylee’s death, has some sort of smoking gun of information, why has she not released it?
There are coyotes in Florida, but not “lots of them”, particularly in suburban Orange County. I’ve lived here for 15 years and have yet to see one.
I would not expect you to have actually seen a coyote in suburban Florida. Exactly how often do you go out in swampy wooded areas at night near a coyote food source and sit very still and very quietly for hours and hours and hours?
Well, coyotes are usually elusive and nocturnal in populated areas in the Eastern states. Yes, they are occasionally seen in Eastern suburbs, yes they very occasionally are seen in residential areas, sometimes in the daylight, but it is comparatively rare for anyone in the East to see a coyote in the daylight (of course except in the Western states), even most Eastern hunters out in the coyote’s habitat rarely see them. In my years, I see tons of deer, rabbits, pheasant, foxes, but only very occasionally see a bobcat or a coyote out East. (I see lots and lots of coyotes all the time in the West, but not out East. People hunting coyotes in the East must resort to game calls in order to find them)
It really burns me up/infuriates me to remember how yesterday the prosecution laughed, out-and-out lied, made fun of, and **deliberately misled the jury **about coyotes not being in Florida. This alone, to me, is indicative of the truth/lack of truth of the prosecution’s faulty case against Casey.
The prosecution probably didn’t know that there are coyotes in Florida. Most Floridians would look at you like you had two heads if you told them they were here.
Anyway, you’re missing the point. The bone was a hundred miles from the nearest swampy wooded area. Either the coyotes are nearby, or they aren’t.
May I humbly opine that if a bone was buried by a coyote or a dog the bone would have a few canine toothmarks on it?
I’m offering this very humbly, because I didn’t have a chance to watch yesterday’s testimony.
Sounds like the “I think a dingo ate your baby” defense.
Don’t give the defense team any ideas, Dogzilla.
Maybe, maybe not. IF the bone was found after the meat was gone, then most likely the bone would NOT have any marks on it. A dog can fetch a duck or pheasant and close down its mouth so softly that not even a feather is rustled. Good dogs are trained so that they can fetch live/tied up birds without harming them in anyway. There would be no reason for a dog to have to actualy “chew” on a bone that it buries. I seen my own dogs bury bones, or even burying complete squirrels/etc leaving no marks at all on the dead body.
Again, I cant think of any other reason why a bone would be buried 4 inches deep in just a few months time, other than a flood or other than an animal burying it. I have seen plenty of dead deer and other animals left laying on the ground and after a few months they, or their skeletons, are still lying on top of the ground. There is no reason for a skeleton to go into the ground by itself, bones do not bury themselves. If 1 bone of Caylees body was 4 inches deep, then somebody, or something, buried it.
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coyotes are everywhere in Florida whether “YOU” see them or not.
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The prosecutor made an overt and obvious and unnecessary attempt at trying to discredit what the witness just said on the stand. The government prosecutor was trying to discredit the witness in a way that the jury might gullibly accept.
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Even if the prosecutor , at the time, was so stupid as to not know that Florida has coyotes, then by now he should have been educated to know that coyotes are all over Florida, and he SHOULD have said today that his comments about the defense witness were totally incorrect, totally wrong, and he should have admited at the start of trial today, and to news reporters, that he was totally and completely wrong and that the witness was totally correct that the bone was probably buried by an animal.
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The prosecutor should also have known that dogs bury bones. Again, his reaction and attempt to falsely discredit the witness makes me want to not believe anything this guy has to say.
When the government/prosecution/police lie/mislead the jury, and/or when they dont admit the obvious truth, then I always vote not guilty. OJ Simpson got off because the police lied and the testimony of the prosecution was not trusted (regardless of whether or not OJ actually did it)
Susanann, it doesn’t take a long time for a small object like a child’s hip bone to be buried. They’re not talking about something buried underground in dirt – they’re talking about loose leafy material covering up an object. If I didn’t rake my yard in the fall, my neighbors wouldn’t be able to find their Yorkie. He wouldn’t be buried though, he’d be covered by the leaves.
“Buried” might be the wrong word to use. To me, if something is buried, you’d need a spade to dig it up. The hip bone was covered, not buried.
Isn’t the issue how long the body was in that spot? Seems that the proof is in the condition of the body, not the amount of material that covered it up.
I’ve had dogs all my life, I currently have 6. Never has one buried a bone. And the area the skeleton was found was a swamp for much of the time. I would guess sediment happens.
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Not really. Not if** George** buried the body. The body was probably there as short as at least 2 weeks, and maybe as long as since** George** buried it months ago.
I am sure that George, and any ex cop , has seen plenty of (innocent and guilty) people being arrested and convicted on circumstances with no more proof than what could have been used against George. After all, it was **George’s pool **where Caylee died. It was Georges ladder that was left out. It was George’s negligence that caused the death.
I am sure that** George** thought the same thoughts as the Casino Godfather:
“Why take a chance?”