Is daughter with same name as mother called Jr.?

[Triskadecamus]

My Great Grandmother was Mary Josephine _______ she was named after her Grandmother, my mother was Mary Josephine as well, My sister, and her granddaughter carry on the tradition, but none of them was junior, or the III, or any such designation (except in family conversation to specify among the various ones.) Aside from a few pieces of antique jewelry, nothing else goes along with it, except an unusual matrilineal awareness in the family.

Tris

“Swat my hind with a melon rind, That’s my penguin state of mind.” ~ Opus ~

[Dr.Rieux]

Well, there’s screenwriter Harriet Frank Jr..

[Mathochist]

@asterion

Perhaps some use a diminuitive for the daughter if there is one available. Elizabeth and Lisa, or Margaret and Peggy.

Often men with the same name in a family or a father and son with the same first name go colloquially by, say, “big John” and “little John”. This becomes ironic when little John outgrows big John (which from what I’ve seen tends to happen). I don’t see women really getting behind that scheme, though. “Honey, you’ve just given birth to a daughter we’re naming after you. From now on you’ll be ‘big Jane’.”

[Polycarp]

@YWalker

Normally, a male is named Junior only if he has the father’s complete name — John David Smith and John David Smith, Jr. If he names the son John William, then the younger John is not a Junior.

So, say I was born Mary Susan Williams. When I marry John Smith, I change my name to Mary Williams Smith (or Mary Susan Williams Smith.) If I name my daughter Mary Susan, then she is Mary Susan Smith, while I am still Mary Williams Smith, so there’s not any duplication of names, and thus no “Junior” is required. (If I name her Mary Williams Smith, though, we’ve got the duplicate name issue.)

All of this, or course, presumes that the parents are married, and the mother takes the father’s name. I think this is standard procedure, but it is by no means mandatory. If you have a single Mom, or a Mom who keeps her maiden name AND gives her female child her surname, then the Junior scenario could definitely come about.

But, of course, this assumes that you drop your maiden middle name and use your maiden surname as your married middle name. My wife, while otherwise a traditionalist, retains her maiden middle name (a diminutive of which is what her parents called her, so there’s sentimental value) and declines to use her maiden surname as anything (except for placing it parenthetically when obliged to do so by law or regulation). So if we had had a daughter and named her after her, we would have had the problem outlined in this thread.

[TV_time]

As a newspaper person I have seen it a couple of times, most recently in November. It was for the daughter of a single mother who had chosen not to marry and had kept her maiden name.

This part would correspond with posters like Polycarp. YWalker and others.

[LifeOnWry]

@Mathochist

Often men with the same name in a family or a father and son with the same first name go colloquially by, say, “big John” and “little John”. This becomes ironic when little John outgrows big John (which from what I’ve seen tends to happen).

It’s even funnier when you suddenly realize you’ve got seven Joes in your swimming pool. Uncle Joe, his son Joey, Joey’s son Joe-Joe, Uncle Joe’s daughter Lisa’s husband Joe and their son Joey, my sister’s son Joey, and another cousin’s son, Joe. And then there’s Lou, Big Lou, Uncle Lou-Lou, Aunt Louise, Louis, Louie…

Yes, we’re Italian.

[MLS]

The other possible differentiation is that if it’s a traditional married couple and daughter, the mom is Mrs. Jane Smith and the daughter is Miss Jane Smith.

[Hyperelastic]

There was a famous TV journalist in Cleveland named Dorothy Fuldheim. She had a daughter who was also a local something-or-other and went by Dorothy Fuldheim Jr.