I did get a notice that there is a similar thread, but while trying to click on those, i got no response.
So is she?
I voted for her in the 2020 Democratic primary, for all the good it does me by the time the primaries finally get to Virginia. (Biden had already clinched it.) I felt at the time, and still do to some extent, that I share very little in common with Biden.
I love Warren. But she’s awfully old at this point.
Six years younger than Biden.
My point exactly. And Biden is the oldest president in history.
I think Warren would be a fantastic president, though. I really do. That’s why I voted for her.
Define “viable.”
She’s incredibly smart and she is one of our best lawmakers in terms of policy.
She’s a pretty good communicator, so I have faith in her ability to convey those policies to the public.
I have very limited information as to her effectiveness in the administrative/supervisory stuff that is also a big part of the president’s job, so I have no opinion there.
She has an excellent bullshit detector and would not be pushed around by other politicians’ grandstanding.
She’s a lot older than I would prefer.
She would drive both the MAGA faction and the corporate wing utterly insane and would attract frothing opposition from a united Right during the campaign.
I would love to see her in the White House but I have reservations about her “viability” (for the multiple dimensions of that term) in achieving the position. I would nevertheless support such an effort for as long as it lasts (and did in the last primary).
Exactly this.
Warren is intelligent, thoughtful, and advocates policies of social and economic liberalism that would make America a better and more equitable nation. Therefore, no, she absolutely is not a viable presidential candidate in present-day America, the one that elected Trump. Even Democrats have to support the plutocracy and religious nutters to be viable.
I echo Cervaises’s sentiments. I thinks she’s one of the most capable and effective politicians we have that align with my own personal politics. I also think her viability in a national election is dead in the water.
Warren won’t run for President this cycle. Like any sane person who doesn’t want Trump to return to the White House, she’s 100% behind Biden.
Then the question is, would she run in 2028? Or really, why would she run in 2028?
Biden surprised a lot of Warren fans like me in 2021 by adopting most of Warren’s platform (and getting a decent chunk of it through Congress, with a big helping hand from Pelosi and Schumer with their razor-thin margins), which has had the effect of moving the party pretty close to where Warren is. So at this point, she can count on the next generation of Dem politicians to keep moving forward.
Not to mention, with Harris, Newsom, and Whitmer all likely running in 2028, that’s some pretty stiff competition. I doubt she’ll make another White House run.
Thirded.
The media landscape in the US is incredibly biased against progressives, even most of the left wing. It took years for joe Scarborough to stop blaming progressives for trump (based on nothing) and he still constantly rants about how the extreme left are pushing people to MAGA (does he ever give an actual example of a supposed extreme left policy?)
I know Joe is conservative, but still it’s MSNBC and it’s indicative of the kind of people they platform and what they say about progressives.
I was not aware she was that old, thats too bad. Doesnt seem responsible to run in -28 at least.
I refuse to vote for anyone that cannot properly drink a beer out of a bottle.
I really liked Kamala Harris as our VP. I’d like her again, please. But if she wanted something else in politics, justice, or heck, even wanted to retire, Warren would jump in there just fine!
Other than that, no for Warren being viable. It’d be nice if she take a cabinet position.
She is not viable. Bear in mind that I really like her, she’s one of the best political speakers I’ve seen in person, and I have seen most of them who ran in the last 8 years. But she’s not even remotely viable.
My main concern would be her age. But she’s smart and principled, and I don’t think she’s a terrible campaigner; she certainly did a lot better in the 2020 primary than our current VP did. She wouldn’t be my first choice if we suddenly needed a candidate for some reason, but I’m a bit surprised at the strong consensus here that she couldn’t possibly win.
Harris isn’t much of a bar to clear, and Biden possibly only picked her at the urging of Jim Clyburn. Either way, Warren had a great peak, but she didn’t sustain it…
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What’s the old political saying about never being seen wearing a goofy hat? Warren’s supposed Indian ancestry is her goofy hat.
Sometimes an image is all that’s needed to destroy the political chances of a candidate. Like Howard Deen’s yeehaw or Michael Dukakis’ little head sticking out of a tank. Unfair as it may be Warren is now known most for one thing. She’s unelectable at the national level.
And a history of being a serial bullshitter.
That’s lot of baggage to carry into a new campaign.
If Biden drops out, she will be in the top tier of Democratic candidates.
As for age, she’s younger then Trump and it shouldn’t be an issue. I think, though, that if Biden is perceived to have dropped out due to age, Democratic primary voters will have the idea that we want someone not just a couple years younger than Trump, but much younger.
Should Elizabeth Warren be tasked with the job of mentoring a politician with her values and intelligence to get their name out in the public conciousness? for instance Kirsten Gillibrand or Jasmine Crockett.
I have voted in the past for Warren and we could have had a lot of better stewardship in finance, foreign policy and public health policy if we had accepted her instead of Obama or Biden. Now, that window seems closed to me. Time
imho that Florida paper link (which I did not open) is playing back the t-dump garbage poisoned propaganda. He only attacked the ones he feared.
I think the “sometimes” though is “the past”.
In the new politics, every democratic candidate getting close to a nomination is going to get an awful nickname at some point and massive attention drawn to some alleged faux pas. And it’s never going to matter, because whatever it is will pale in comparison to whatever the MAGAs are doing.
It’s not the reason for being unelectable, promising to tax corporations is.