Oddly, your value system is self centered to the extreme. You do realize that valuing a pet’s life over other human beings is both self centered and very, very far from how almost all of humanity feels.
Actually, you didn’t. You said if your hubby made you choose between you and your dog, you’d choose the dog (WTF?). In this case your husband would be the cause of you having to choose and thus presumably there would be friction between you because of it. If instead, life in all its strange quirks forced you to choose between your husband and your dog, which would come first?
I wouldn’t know how almost all of humanity feels, and I kinda doubt you do too. How many people do you really think would value the life of the father that froze his kids to death in Canada? Seems like there were quite a few folks in that thread that thought death was too good for him. Do you see the problem here with absolute statements?
Apparently you aren’t reading the whole thread, as I responded to you after the first time you asked who I would save in a fire - I can’t tell you the post number since they don’t show on preview. It was on 01-07-2009 at 12:17 PM.
Regarding your WTF at me choosing the dog over husband if he was the one demanding I choose (in absence of fire or anything like that) my husband was aware I am deeply involved with dogsports when he met me, indeed that is how we met and he himself is a judge of one of those sports. If he suddenly told me I had to get rid of the dogs, this would be the same thing as suddenly deciding he just had to have a child. It would be one of those things that just couldn’t be compromised on.
No, the question was in a life or death situation where either your husband or your pet is likely to die, which one would you choose. Apparently, your original implication that you’d choose your pet’s life over your husband’s under any circumstances was too insane, even for you, hence the attempt to pretend all you really meant was serving him his walking papers, not watching him take the big dirt nap. Nice try.
My original “implication” was never that I would choose my pets’ lives over my husband under any circumstances. I have been very clear that the only time I would do that would be if he were the one just telling me - “the dogs or me”.
For some reason, you are either completely unable to understand what I write, or you are just looking for ways to try to trip me up. Either way, it doesn’t make you look very good to call me insane.
Okaaaay. I’m having a bit of trouble with the idea of calling someone evil based on the way she does politics, but on the other hand saying that your “team is the human race”. Don’t you think that’s a bit extreme?
So at long last you admit that your husband’s life is more valuable to you than your pets’. Yet you put your fingers in your ears and go “lah lah lah” when every parent, without exception IIRC in this thread, declares that there’s no comparison between the lives of their pets and the lives of their children.
You must be surrounded by real ugly folks, then.
ETA:
(Mr. Godwin answers his page) AFAIK Hitler never killed anyone personally: he probably would have squealed like a little girl if forced to face the prospect. All he did was just politics.
Note that no matter how many times you repeat this, it isn’t going to be true.
And? You do know that isn’t the controversy here don’t you? I your hurry to “prove” that there is something wrong with me, have you forgotten that it is comparing children to pets, not husbands to pets or children?
This has what to do with what? It might help you to understand what is being said here if you stayed on subject, and tried to avoid throwing around odd statements like this.
So, to you publically airing (whatever Ann Coulter’s) political opinions is the same thing as building an army and sending it forther to attempt to wipe out as many Jews and Gyspies as they could find? Not to mention torture and imprisonment in hellholes. Interesting.
You said, “Either way, it doesn’t make you look very good to call me insane.”
Koxinga said, “You must be surrounded by real ugly folks, then.”
Get it? Not looking good = ugly; the implication being that many people around you do not “look very good” for the same reason. The joke is that perhaps many people think the way Koxinga does. It was a pretty direct reply, though sarcastic.
How do you figure? There are conservative political figures I like and respect though I disagree with them; what vexes me about Ann Coulter is her utter disregard for civility and decency. She’s vile.
What on earth do you mean by saying I am being extreme in saying my ultimate allegiance is to humanity?
I don’t think so. I’ll stay away from certain forbidden terms, but it seems clear that she is more interested in provoking incredulity, anger, and contentiousness than actual debate.
The juxtaposition of calling someone evil, which to me is a term one would reserve for the absolute dregs of society, and then claiming allegiance to humanity as a whole is what I thought was extreme. I mean, there are a lot of people that I think are vile but I wouldn’t take it all the way to evil, and I don’t have the faith in humans that you appear to have.
I don’t know Ann Coulter and the little I read of her after you mentioned her doesn’t seem all that different than any other person who is trying to force their beliefs on others. Why do you think she is evil? What about her would cause you to regret sacrificing Ms Whatsit’s life for hers?