Is Evergreen State College the canary in the coal mine, foretelling the death of higher education?

Perhaps not, but the liberals who live near Liberty University aren’t threatening to bring a .44 Magnum to campus and shoot people, either.

I’m just glad I got my college education while it was still possible. Whew!!!

Channelling my inner Rebecca Bunch, it turns out the situation is a lot more nuanced than that

So, no: white students weren’t forced off campus. Nonwhite students haven’t been forced off campus in previous years. Rather, folks interested in participating in this day’s events–which, keep in mind, are educational events–were encouraged to switch it up from years past.

Now, the reaction to the professor was awful. But I’m no longer irritated at the administration.

Odd that the professor’s desire to opt out of this optional event created such a ruckus.

Jeez. I watched that whole damn video, despite hating watching these things. Someone makes the comment about how whiteness is the most violent system to ever fuckin breathe around the :48 mark, but nobody made any comment about yelling he should be attacked.

I still think the administration needs to set some ground rules, needs to lay down some serious motherfucking tone policing and be clear that the conversation will not be held in this sort of Public Shaming forum, where when a professor gestures, people start shouting at him about how he needs to have his hands at his side and laughing to mock him until he, humiliated, puts his hands at his side. This is Cultural Revolution bullshit, and the administration needs to stop it.

But unless the threat of violence was made elsewhere, I’m not seeing it.
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Not especially. I suspect it was his whiny calling of the event “an act of oppression” that got people pissed off. There’s a long and inglorious tradition of white people pretending to be the true victims of racism, and I think a lot of students heard that in his email. Their reaction appears to me to be way over the top, but it doesn’t surprise me that his email pissed people off.

Is that a real college or an elaborate parody?

It’s both. It’s real, but indistinguishable from parody. See this video: Common Bread

You guys are like just on the wrong psychedelics, man.

I’d be surprised if Cruz could find anyone at Evergreen that wanted to talk to him.

I actually think this is a really cool idea.

It’s all starting to make sense now. :smiley:

Collegiate administrations have a tendency to only react to that which may imperil the fundraising, so we’ll have to see how that aspect plays out. But for the kind of person involved in this sort of fracas, “tone policing” is just another example of “privilege” and will only get further adverse reaction.

But that’s what happens when everything is looked at through that prism of who is and is not oppressed (more). Yes, the professor’s opposition to an optional event could be taken as a whiny “but why should we reverse things”, but his detractors’ reaction, that rather than proving him wrong they’d make an example so nobody ever again dares object, was entirely out of place.

Of course, then since a-holes with an internet feed cannot just let this stand when it pops up on their “outrage of the day” feed, the college winds up getting actual death threats phoned in from outside…

I believe it was the Class of 99 that chose Mumia Abu-Jamal as commencement speaker? Evergreen is … unusual. (BTW, some of the graduates stood and turned their backs during the speech.)

I think the students’ behavior is disgusting. But I’m pretty sure this incident would be little more than an “interesting footnote” if it weren’t for the media coverage. Students acting like assholes is not a new phenomenon. What is REALLY changing about society is that our perceptions are shaped by social and online media whose single objective is to drive traffic. That should worry you more than Evergreen.

Wasn’t my class. At the time, it was a pretty common belief that Mumia was innocent and framed by a racist police network. I’m pretty unconvinced that that’s true, but that’s because in the intervening years he’s had more opportunities to explain his innocence and he’s instead teased about them.

Given the pretty clear evidence that a lot of black men–especially black men who work as political activists–are unfairly targeted by racist police violence, the idea that he was innocent wasn’t absurd.

I don’t think you had very many folks who both believed he was guilty and who wanted him as a commencement speaker.

Why the heck would any employer want to hire anyone from this school?

And that brings up another point. With the rise of social media anyone and everyone will know what happens on any given college campus. Thing is - ALL STUDENTS are affected. So it is in the interest of the students themselves to put a stop to this crap to not make the reputation of the college any worse. Its part of the reason the University of Colorado stopped its annual smoking pot event.

This also makes a point of asking why dont we see such crap at engineering schools?

But again, you dont see this kind of crap at engineering schools.

Well, if you were looking to create an animated TV series back in the late-'80s, it might have worked out okay.

:dubious: Because it’s possible to get a kickass education there. It’s typically ranked fairly high by US New and World report–not like in the top rating for schools nationally, but in the western region it’s:

and, what’ll probably surprise you,

If you’re actually interested in how to get a kickass education there, and why it’s ranked so highly, I’m happy to expand; but if you just want to shake your head at them damn hippies, you keep on keeping on.

A. Engineering school requires work.
B. Engineering school attracts sensible people.
C. Engineering grads want a job doing something constructive.

I don’t have any idea what ______ studies people expect to do in life.