Someone once captured a good example of this:
And also:
Oral Sadism and the Vegetarian Personality
Well, I listened to the first half hour (so far) of the Rubin Report podcast with professor Brett Weinstein.
It’s rare that such a fundamental injustice is placed into relief this sharply. Weinstein is a rational, thoughtful human being capable of nuanced critical thinking, and his desire to instill this in his students is obvious. When they were screaming epithets at him, he wasn’t just responding calmly and rationally - he was trying to teach them. He understood what was happening, and why. At one point he said something to the effect of, ''You realize the course of history could pivot on this moment?"
Honestly what pissed me off the most was seeing students take such a good teacher for granted. They displayed an utter contempt for learning and should be expelled.
You know there is a difference between refining models of reality by employing the scientific method and arguing by feelings and intimidation?
I came across this example of Post-Modernist influenced rot a few months ago:
What can you do with people like that?
The link came from this article We Few, We Miserable Few, in it there’s a link to another interesting one: The Microaggression Farce.
Important to note what the students in question are preparing for “The Ph.D. candidates who authored this statement are at the threshold of a career in academia—and not just any career in academia but one teaching teachers.”
What happened at UCLA sounds similar to what happened at Evergreen. Terrible.
This quote however –
I took an entire year-long track on critical race theory with a curriculum developed by “Black Men at Penn”, and my experience was nothing like that. This description seems like a gross distortion of what is actually taught and how the dynamics typically play out. Critical race theory has been around for a long time, there is nothing inherently irrational about it – indeed, the historical and statistical realities we examined were quite concrete. There is nothing ‘‘intellectually vacuous’’ about critical race theory. The study of race itself is not the problem.
This is my point. It’s really, really hard to take these arguments seriously when they keep setting up and knocking down straw men.
BTW, the statistical risk for rape is so much higher for a woman in college than at virtually any other time in her life that I think it’s reasonable to say campuses are (relatively) unsafe for women.
There is some academic-sexism bullshit too, but that’s not being ‘‘unsafe’’ so much as having to put up with sexist bullshit.
It is my opinion that the vast majority of Americans want to do the right thing and vote the right way. But alienate them and they’ll fuck off. Or at least enough to let someone like Trump win.
This Evergreen thing WILL…well, if it were closer to an election,WOULD cost votes. Who wants to be associated with that? And you can scream til your blue in the face about holding your nose and voting, and you’ll just push people further away.
There was some thread about a Slate interview recently and the interviewer asked, “Well what do we say to the millions of people that voted for a horrible racist bigot?”
Is that really a question??? You say what you have to, to get their goddamn vote!!
And you stop lecturing the people who sat out the last election.
That was a general rant, not directed at anyone.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a poll of the overall Evergreen student body thought the protesting students were somehow not part of the Evergreen student body. And if asked if they regarded themselves as representative of Evergreen, you’d get a resounding “No”.
I don’t know what your experiences in life are, but my experience of college was not one where students identified with the school. Certainly, a percentage of the students did, but it was a minority. Students develop a closer identity to their school’s football team or their fraternity or their acapella group than the school itself.
You are going to always be disappointed if you expect a group you’ve defined in your head to “have some obligation to speak out for decent behavior and encourage penalties for those who transgress”. You don’t really know much of anything about the composition of that group or how they view themselves. You’ll just have to assume they’re decent people who view this harassment with as much disdain as you do.
As far as the faculty and administration go, penalizing misbehaving students is their role no matter what they identify with, and if they hesitate in that role then they are simply not doing their job and can be criticized for that.
I’d like to see a cite for this - specifically that women in college (in the US) are at higher statistical risk for rape than women of the same age who are not in college.
Regards,
Shodan
This comparison would have a prayer of validity if Wal-Mart shoppers wore clothing bearing the company name, put Wal-Mart stickers on their vehicles, listed “Shopped at Wal-Mart” on their CVs, donated money to Wal-Mart, went to Wal-Mart reunions etc. 
It’s probably a different story if one goes to Generic Community College, but the place I attended for four years had a tradition of political activism and (at the time, at least) controversial free speech, and most students identified with and were proud of that.*
*along with getting blasted on various legal and illegal substances and semi-daring acts of nudity and sexual expression.
Cal? Did you attend at same time as Naked Guy? Andrew Martinez - Wikipedia
Well, here’s a cite indicating I’m wrong.
[QUOTE=U.S. DOJ Special Report]
From 1997 to 2013, females ages 18 to 24 consistently experienced higher rates of rape and sexual assault than females in other age brackets (figure 2). In 2013, college age
females had a similar rate of rape and sexual assault regardless of enrollment status (about 4.3 victimizations per 1,000), while the victimization rate for not college-age (ages 12 to 17 and 25 or older)females was 1.4 victimizations per 1,000. For both students and nonstudents ages 18 to 24, the 2013 rates of rape and sexual assault were not significantly different from their respective rates in 1997.
[/QUOTE]
It’s a dangerous age for women, but it appears to be dangerous regardless of whether you are enrolled in school.
I did, however, find this interesting little tidbit:
We’re talking about a very small sample of males here so I would hesitate to generalize too much, but it suggests that either a) males are at a higher risk of sexual assault when they are in college, or b) that they are more likely to report it if they are college students. (if we go with ‘‘b,’’ we have to allow the possibility that female college students are less likely to report than nonstudents.) I suspect the answer is A.
This is a bit of a sidebar, but I’ve had a gnawing question for some time now:
What’s with the use of the word “bodies”? When I was in college a decade ago, admittedly I wasn’t hanging out in the African-American studies classes, but I didn’t see it used like this, but now I see repeated use of the word in strange contexts, like this:
I feel like a missed a memo / dare somewhere in which students were instructed to repeatedly use the word “bodies” in a sentence. Does anyone know when this came into vogue? Or why?
It’s especially bizarre when it comes up in the context of speech which isn’t projected so much onto one’s body as onto one’s mind.
Here are some additional (off-the-cuff) examples:
When I went there, I had friends who turned into acquaintances over stuff like this: they’d go to Exxon stations and call people murderers if they got gas there, or they’d go to a business school and write FUCK AMERIKKKA with Sharpies on the statues, or they’d engage in a pointless environmental action that accomplished nothing other than getting a few dozen folks arrested for trespassing, and they’d count it all as a victory.
In my experience, most of the other students rolled our eyes and changed the subject and kept on with our educations.
I never heard anyone say they weren’t part of the Evergreen community; they were just as much a part of our community as douchebro fratboys are part of the community at other colleges. But just as douchebro fratboys don’t sound the death knell of public education, neither do asshole radicals.
I suspect it all ties into the idea of objectification and physical exploitation. Black bodies were literally used to generate profit during the slavery era and many have argued that they still are (see: our fucked up prison system.) Then there’s all the death by cop going around. I think there is a lot of legitimacy to these complaints (though I will not debate them right now) but the overarching idea is that black people have historically been treated like things rather than people, and the word ‘‘bodies’’ is meant to affirm their humanity.
That’s just a guess.
I see she responded to you below, but you’re distorting what she said.
She said:
“the statistical risk for rape is so much higher for a woman in college than at virtually any other time in her life”
You said:
“women in college (in the US) are at higher statistical risk for rape than women of the same age who are not in college”
These are not remotely the same thing.
Thanks for your thoughts. From my perspective, the emphasis on physical bodies would seem to have the opposite effect, but maybe I’m the one thinking about it backwards. 