It starts off “Andy and Amy Mangione of Louisville, Ky. and their two boys are just the kind of people who should be helped by ObamaCare. But they recently got a nasty surprise in the mail.”
And it ends as you would expect: a hard-working, typical American family being screwed by the evils of Obamacare.
Mr. Mangione is a lobbyist who is lobbying AGAINST Obamacare! In fact, the insurance company which sent him the letter is a company where he was previously as an executive!
At no time in the video nor in the accompanying story is this even mentioned. That’s pretty unethical, isn’t it?
I am no fan of Fox, but that hardly makes your point.
The quote is from a defense attorney, (whether of one of the two boys involved is not stated), and the Fox News host immediately jumps on his claim as bullshit. For once, someone in Fox News was acting responsibly.
This is a big deal–we’ve found something too shameless even for Fox News. Apparently, saying that a 14-year-old rape victim was asking for it is a bridge too far.
We may have found the summit of Bullshit Mountain.
As a conservative, there is a clear and undeniable rightward lean to Fox News. That being said, I disagree that they lie or are incapable of journalism anymore than other news sources. MSNBC is just as bad on the left, and all of the other mainstream news sources skew left.
My major gripe with Fox News is the stories they choose to cover. I remember when Benghazi came out, they covered that ALL DAY LONG for a few days. If you only watched Fox News, you would have gotten the impression that Benghazi was ripping the country apart and that impeachment was nigh.
And that clip in the PA diner last year is also a good example. I don’t know if it was malicious or not, but the reporter had the story in his head: there would be supporters on both sides (like in most diners), so its a close race here in PA, and going to be a close election! The suspense is mounting! Stay tuned through election day!
Well, it didn’t work out, and instead of being able to adjust on the fly, the reporter (in no small part due to his probable bias) simply stuck to his script. That’s piss poor, but not an example of a blatant lie.
Fair and Balanced? No, but that’s just puffery. Your local car dealership won’t always give you the best deal on a new car purchase, but that’s always been an accepted form of advertisement.
The biggest compliment I have with Fox or MSNBC is that their bias shows that a normal politician can’t get past his talking points. Get him out of his comfort zone and challenge his boilerplate, and he/she usually folds. O’Reilly is typically very good at this. I like that better than the old school journalism where the pols got away with saying what they wanted to.
Not really, as I pointed before on post #203 FOX even has a policy rule/advice to their reporters to use false equivalency and misleading info when climate change is the subject.
As discussed in a different thread, the bigger issue is that FOX is not only showing the normal bias of political favoritism, but they also have bias against science and factual information on many subjects.
Generally speaking, FOX is doing the reverse of what Thomas Jefferson was expecting to see. With FOX there is less of a chance to see people that are well informed so they can be trusted with their own government.
The standard defense is usually that he is a commentator not a reporter. I suppose you could also say that he didn’t say anything wrong, it was his guests who made those statements.
Honestly, at this point, I have to ask of anyone who thinks “Fox isn’t that bad”, or “The rest of the media is just as bad” -
Why do you think the support of hate groups that want to deport all Muslims, ban religious freedoms, and call for the targeting and harassment of LGBT people, including specifically targeting individual children is something that can be waved away as “political differences”?
What has MSNBC ever done that’s ANYWHERE near as bad? (not going to mention CNN, because Nancy Grace is a boil on the ass of humanity)
Yes, we’ve discussed this. Fox appears to be heavily biased against AGW which is your cause célèbre. However in other areas (like reporting on presidential elections) they appear to be less biased. That, in my book, makes them no more biased overall.
I don’t doubt that Fox photoshopped pictures; they are biased, after all. That can be countered by the selective audio that other media played during the whole Zimmerman fiasco. They are all biased and they all have an agenda. Fox’s bias happens to run counter to the bias of the SDMB so they get extra scorn.
I’m not interested in anecdotes. I posted a couple of independent studies (one of them a meta study) that indicated that Fox news is less biased than the other MSM in certain topics. GIGO posted a study showing Fox to be heavily biased against AGW.
I see. You think deliberately attempting to target children for harassment, threats, and violence is an anecdote not worth commenting on, and that defending hate groups is less than other media do.
What hate groups have MSNBC defended? What subset of Americans does MSNBC think deserve to be deported, or are all terrorists?
Calling it my cause célèbre does not change the fact that FOX has orders for their [del]minions[/del] reporters to misinform their viewers. There is still a big difference between bias and deception.
You are even ignorant on what I have a beef with FOX, the record on the SDMB shows that a lot of the issues started with the “Moon Hoax” show that FOX aired that misled many people and posters. (If you think it was just their entertainment division who did that, a few years ago Gerardo in a FOX interview still made a reference to it and not to disparage that conspiracy theory, it still remains a useful one to discredit a successful government program)
Also what **Karrius **pointed out supports what I also said about other factual things being misrepresented by FOX.
And we should also mention the FOX misleading (one would have to say that they are lying the longer they do not post a mea culpa in their site) coverage of the Healt care reform.
