There was no personal attack. Please stop making false statements, and instead provide cites for your allegations.
Regards,
Shodan
Accusing someone of debating in bad faith is in fact a personal attack, and really can’t be construed as anything else.
But…but…but he added “Regards”!
Ah, the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” defense. :rolleyes:
For the record, let’s encapsulate the three different posts here:
The two from tomndebb say that someone isn’t debating in good faith and then go onto make several salient points that lend evidence to this statement and/or defend his point of view.
Shodan makes the statement in a post that stands almost alone, save for some extra cheese and whine.
In summary: It may not be a very nice thing to say but the difference between merely saying it in a petulant vacuum and saying it while providing something of substance, the least of which might be evidence that shows the statement not to be an unfair one, is pretty huge.
I do realize that substance is not Shodan’s strong suit, however.
Heck, even I can tell that last line was personal.
From the clips I’ve seen of Fox News, they seem to assume that as a viewer, I’m some kind of idiot. This does not entice me to view further.
The headline, and first line, of the current lead story on Politics | Fox News
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California bill would let illegal immigrants serve on juries**
The California Assembly passed a bill on Thursday that would make the state the first in the nation to allow non-citizens who are in the country legally to serve on jury duty.
You get the same headline and first line if you click on it.
It will be interesting to see how long the headline goes unchanged. I don’t know how long it’s been up already.
Wow. How many of their web viewers do they expect not to read even one sentence beyond a headline? I wonder how long this combo will stay posted?
Also, that’s an AP story getting pretty wide distribution. The same story elsewhere has the following headline (since it’s so common I’m guessing it’s provided by AP): Calif. bill would let non-citizens serve on juries
If you search for this exact headline, you get dozens (maybe hundreds) of hits.
Every one of the hits for the “illegal immigrants” headlines (well, I looked at the first two pages) cites Fox as the source, including Stormfront.
Actually, this raises a question for me. Fox Nation (not Fox News) has the accurate version of the headline. Does anybody know what the difference between the two is?
The article has apparently aged off of the politics breaking news page, but it’s still on the Fox News website, with the same headline.
Another month of playing, “Does Foxnews report the jobs numbers on the front page of their site like every single legitimate news source?”
Answer: Unemployment went down, so no.
Fox Nation is a separate web operation, rather than an adjunct to a TV channel, which is more opinion-oriented. In less politic terms, it’s a forum for the cranky to whine about negroes, gays, Hispanics and liberals in a manner that might undermine whatever credibility the channel has left if they reproduced it there.
That’s pretty amazing. I figured it had to be there somewhere, even if just a headline link. But from what I can see there isn’t a single mention of the unemployment report anywhere no the main page…
At least they have to put their stock ticker up, so maybe eventually it will sink in that Obama isn’t killing the economy. Of course they also have this headline on the main page: “Does a Rally Still Count if it’s led by Defensive Stocks?” So maybe not.
You should check it out when the numbers are bad. Then it gets a “Breaking News” ticker.
They added a front-page headline about the jobs numbers!
Here it: “Does positive jobs report tell full employment story?”
They report, you decide!
Cavuto Mark sighted!
My impression of Fox News, and I am responding to the OP w/o having read other posts, so not influenced by other posts.
I don’t live in the US and haven’t for more than 10 years. When I did, I did not watch Fox News. I don’t remember why, just some vague idea it was sort of tabloidy and right wing. Then, I lived in places for 9 years where I didn’t get Fox News at all, so I never saw it. Then last summer, I was in a place for 2 months that had it. It was before the election in November, and much of the ‘news’ was about the election. My impression was that Fox News, so called ‘news,’ was 24/7 free campaign advertisement for Romney. Nearly everything was about how great the Republican candidate was and how bad the Democratic candidate was;there was very little coverage of international events, unless they were directly linked to the above. This wasn’t ‘news.’ it was campaigning, outright and direct, imo, for the Republican party. And that is just the ‘news;’ I didn’t even watch any of the discussion programs. It was sickening. So, imo, yes, Fox News is really that bad.
I was thinking on posting this on the Republican ideas thread on the pit, but it fits better here, are they trying to fill the void left by the closing of Weekly World News?
While my reasonable side suggests I shouldn’t argue with fools, I can’t help but point out that anti-Semitic institutions like the Spanish Inquisition and the myth of blood libel long predate the age of enlightenment. Then again, that’s using reason, and we know how Nance feels about that. As Jon Stewart famously demonstrated, Nazis are Fox News’ catch-all villain, used to denounce anything they dislike: being liberal, supporting Obama, criticizing Fox News for its misinformation.
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I’m glad someone has finally stripped the veil off reason, exposing it to be the tool of the Devil it really is! Kudos to Fox for standing against it.