I am still waiting for someone who thinks Fox News is hunky dory to refute my post(s).
Or mine.
Bullseye! Right on the money! This is exactly why I don’t like to watch or listen to FOX “News”!
What “objective standard” involves the center being off-center, exactly?
Appears to, certainly, but I wonder how much of that is people being convinced that what they believe is right of center when it’s not. “Communist” and “socialist” are dirty words to the vast majority of Americans, but if you were to describe left-wing/liberal policies without actually labeling them “liberal” or “Democratic”, people LIKE them in large numbers. When the provisions of the ACA are described without attributing them to Obama or the Democrats (or “Obamacare” or “the ACA”), people LOVE them (with the exception of the mandate, but then people never love taxes, however necessary they are). It’s only when you mention Obama or Democrats that the whole shebang become “socialism”!
Any of the Fox News supporters care to defend this?

Any of the Fox News supporters care to defend this?
- He meant help as in helping her paint her living room or kitchen.
- He would have sent that same missive out to a Democratic appointee also-he’s just a patriotic guy.
- They do it toooo!
- He was talking about Condi’s budding music career.

Any of the Fox News supporters care to defend this?
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I agree that not only is Fox News biased, it really is the propoganda arm of the Republican party.
If it weren’t for Shep Smith and Chris Wallace, I’d say nuke it from orbit.
It’s blatantly obvious that the GOP IS Fox News. It’s not that they just work together or are sympathetic to the GOP, they are an essential part of it.
This is really what separates it from MSNBC and any other “liberally biased” media.
I’m really enjoying this discussion and it’s very timely for me, considering the upcoming election and all of the disinformation Fox is putting out regarding Benghazi etc. I belong to another webboard Bagism.com and yes, it is a Beatles/John Lennon-related site primarily, or used to be until the Foxtards took over. I have tried to do everything I can to reason with these people, showed them facts, tried to help them be a little more critical about which information they accept, but they’ll just have none of it. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. Anyone ever have luck getting through to a Foxtard at all? If so, any pointers? Or, should I just forget it and have some fun with it instead?
…For Science in particular.
Is News Corp. Failing Science? (.pdf)
© 2012 Union of Concerned ScientistsUCS’s analysis finds that:
• Over a recent six-month period, 93 percent of Fox News Channel’s representations of climate science were misleading (37 out of 40 instances).
UCS’s examination finds that the misleading citations include broad dismissals of human-caused climate change, disparaging comments about individual scientists, rejections of climate science as a body of knowledge, and cherry picking of data. Fox News Channel citations also included several discussions in which misleading claims dominated accurate ones. Furthermore, much of this coverage denigrated climate science by either promoting distrust in scientists and scientific institutions or placing acceptance of climate change in an ideological, rather than fact-based,
context.

Fox News is Conservative, but all network news shows ares fundamentally Conservative, inasmuch as they subtly and unsubtly validate the status quo.
I think on a purely fundamental level, this is wholly inaccurate. Most media outside of radio is heavily liberal so perhaps when you see Fox being more conservative - which they are - swimming in a pool that is almost 100% more liberal, it seems out of place.
As someone who is more moderate than anything else, I prefer CNN mainly because I like their “style and presentation” better than Fox.

I think on a purely fundamental level, this is wholly inaccurate. Most media outside of radio is heavily liberal so perhaps when you see Fox being more conservative - which they are - swimming in a pool that is almost 100% more liberal, it seems out of place.
This is false and dumb.
I do find it a bit hypocritical that hardcore liberals will go borderline violent about how “right” Fox is, show their hatred for clear conservatives like Hannity and O’Reilly but wont concede that hosts like Maddow and Olberman are JUST as bad in the other direction.
I personally cannot stand any of the above, I’ll take Colbert and Stewart please

I do find it a bit hypocritical that hardcore liberals will go borderline violent about how “right” Fox is, show their hatred for clear conservatives like Hannity and O’Reilly but wont concede that hosts like Maddow and Olberman are JUST as bad in the other direction.
Except that you didn’t say one person on MSNBC and one person currently unemployed. You said:

Most media outside of radio is heavily liberal.
This may come as a shock to you, but those two people are NOT “most media.”

I do find it a bit hypocritical that hardcore liberals will go borderline violent about how “right” Fox is, show their hatred for clear conservatives like Hannity and O’Reilly but wont concede that hosts like Maddow and Olberman are JUST as bad in the other direction.
I personally cannot stand any of the above, I’ll take Colbert and Stewart please
As has been stated here so many times it defies description: It isn’t the conservatism of the above-named persons that is being protested-it is the lies, inaccuracies and deceptions that spring from their lips on a regular basis.

I don’t see how anybody could watch Fox and say it’s not biased. It’s obviously biased, but that wouldn’t be so bad if
a) they didn’t claim they were fair and balanced, and
b) they didn’t make shit up, or persist in reporting false stuff long after they know it’s false.
MSNBC is NOT the same. They may be as biased to the left as Fox is to the right, but they don’t claim to be fair and balanced, and they don’t make shit up.
Disclaimer: I only watch the big guns, i.e. Matthews and Maddow on MSNBC, and O’Reilly and Hannity on Fox. I guess it’s possible that Shep Smith may be less biased than Al Sharpton.
Jon Stewart - Fox’s bullshit mountain:
My favorite Faux News bit was their showing “riots” in Madison Wisconsin in February 2011. The “riots” had green palm trees in the background.
First, there were never any riots during the January - April 2011 protests in Madison. During that entire time, about 30 people were arrested for what would be called riotous behavior. - That’s fewer than the usual number arrested on a single football Saturday.
Second, the only green vegetation on Capitol Square in Madison are evergreen trees. There are no palm trees nor any other kind of leafy green trees.
(BTW, During the biggest weekend protest, there were three bus loads of counter-protest folks from around Wisconsin bused-in by the Koch Brothers.)
Colbert saw the same thing: