The only news source I can truly trust is NPR News. All the other news sources either have a liberal or conservative agenda. It’s not journalism anymore; it’s a business. It’s all about how can we keep our target audience and how we can get them to buy products via VNR’s. VNRs are great because they take up time, are cheap to make and advertise products under the guise of a news report.
Yeah FOX News is really that bad. People already cited their bad practices. The commentators come off as not having very good critical thinking skills.
MSNBC is biased as well, but I think it hurts FOX more that they have less competent commentators like Sean Hannity, and Sarah Palin.
I wouldn’t mind the bias because every commentator has their own view point but it seems like you have cable news being some organized entity for a political party and putting out the most sensationalistic personalities they can to get people into a furor.
I love Rachel Maddow. Her show is the only news show that I TiVo. I realize she has a liberal bias.
But I watch her religiously because I trust her with the facts. She usually offers verifiable things and in the rare event she reports something that is inaccurate, she will correct it at the soonest opportunity. Whenever she introduces a guest who is there to comment on a specific story, her first question to the guest is “Is there anything I got wrong with that?”
Michael Moore tells me what I want to hear a lot of times. I don’t trust him nearly as much even though his “agenda” usually runs alongside my own.
(I know his medium is different but I cannot think of a Liberal commentator on cable news who is as cavalier with the facts as Moore and Fox News can be.)
Fox News are liars and this is proven. Fox News viewers are more likely to be uninformed or misinformed about the news they are watching and this is proven.
I hate Fox News not because they are Conservative. I hate them because they lie. And their lies make a decent percentage of the American population dumber because of it.
On a board where ignorance is the enemy, Fox News should be Enemy #1 because they are not just ignorant, they drag down a sizable part of the country into ignorance with them.
I don’t trust Rachel Maddow. I enjoy watching her show but I won’t watch it as a source for news, only to see how “the left” views a current event, or just to see how she personally views something so as to be exposed to another viewpoint.
Now, I remember CBS breaking the story, I think in 2011. I ignored it but later another forum I frequent posted a Daily Show clip about it. I started looking into it and it seemed like there was some major incompetence involved. I hadn’t come across FOX News coverage of it yet, nor Darrel Issa’s conspiracy theory.
She perpetuated the idea that it was a program started under Bush, which it wasn’t Operation Wide Receiver was a similar program but was done in cooperation with the Mexican government. Operation Fast Furious was the same but NOT doe in cooperation with the Mexican government, among other things. She also did a timeline of how the Fast and Furious story got started by a right wing blogger, and FOX News but made no mention of CBS being the ones to break the actual story.
I don’t believe FOX News or the right wing claims that it was some vast conspiracy by Obama to increase gun violence on the border in order to take away gun rights. But I don’t believe it’s a story that should be ignored either.
You have evidence for not trusting her? Share, please.
I just did. In her commentary on Fast and Furious she didn’t mention CBS breaking the story and she incorrectly said Fast and Furious was a program carried over from the Bush era, which it wasn’t.
I would like a cite.
Since when? Since about 1791? The “fourth estate” has always been a business. They make their money from advertisers, that is how they can broadcast in the clear or sell you a paper for only 50¢. Any time a story veers into the territory of compromising an advertiser (or underwriter), it gets carefully massaged to avoid offense, unless the source feels that it is safe to lose that revenue source. Hence, the “liberal bias” is illusory when it comes to the really important stuff. This holds for all commercial news sources. The first amendment protects journalists from reprisal by the government, but not from industry (of which the media is a part).
December 7th 2011 CBS news story
Wiki article on gun walking scandal
Rachel Maddow first commenting on Fast and Furious
I can’t find the original forum thread where the CBS story I originally came across was at, but after googling it, I think that may be the same story. I’ll come back later to verify if that was the same article.
What does Rachel Maddow have to do with CBS News?
I don’t see Rachel Maddow on that Wiki page; what relevance is there?
Can you tell me the falsehood(s) in that 15 minute clip?
Rachel Maddow provided a timeline of the Fast and Furious story implying it was manufactured by a rightwing blogger and FOX News only when CBS broke the story and was provided with those documents.
Rachel Maddow claimed Fast and Furious was a continued Bush program which it wasn’t.
the gunwalking scandal started in 06.
fast and furious was a portion of a program that has been going on for 3 years at that point.
Good heavens. She didn’t say the blogger made up the fact that Fast and Furious existed, she said he made up the story that the motivation behind it was to undermine the Second Amendment.
She said that it was a continuation of a Bush strategy of selling guns to criminals in the hopes of tracing them to druglords. I agree she could have been more clear that it was not the exact same program, but that is only a very minor detail to anyone who doesn’t think that the motive behind it is to confiscate everyone’s guns.
If you are saying that CBS “broke” the story in December 2011, the only thing I can think of to make sense of your claims about Maddow lying is that you are under the impression that she was claiming the story about the alleged conspiracy had just come out, which is ridiculous.
If you look at the dates on the documents she shows, the allegation from the Alabama blogger is dated March 8, 2011, and the Fox News article identifying the blogger as “an authority on the Fast and Furious investigation” was dated Sep 9, 2011.
So I really doubt that she was sneakily covering up CBS “breaking” the story in December 2011, or trying to make anyone think that the conspiracy theory was a new development. The new development, and the reason she reported on the story the day she did, was that Issa’s committee had just voted (along party lines) to charge Eric Holder with contempt of Congress for invoking executive privilege.
Yeah, I don’t understand this at all. She clearly blames the Conspiracy Theory that many on the right bought into regarding F&F on the blogger, not the whole damn thing. And she is not wrong about this.
Oddly enough, the Right is not learning their lesson from F&F as they are repeating their past behavior with regard to Benghazi, led on by the Benghazi Cheerleading Network, Fox News. More on that in my next post…
Yeah, it’s a fine distinction but she is not factually incorrect here as far as I can tell. Certainly if this is the smoking gun that Maddow is not trustworthy, I am pretty content using her as source for commentary.
Fox News is doing it again, screaming “Benghazi” over and over again until their faces turn blue. They do this a lot: Pick on something by themselves that is at best based on dubious facts and at worst loony tunes tin foil hat brigade conspiracy theory nonsense and beat it to the ground until viewers decide that it’s a fact, other mainstream media outlets feel forced to comment on the story and even politicians buy into it.
Here’s an editorial from The Washington Post that touches upon this:
Needless to say, Fox News Is Leading The Attack Against Susan Rice.
The tragedy here goes beyond the four dead Americans. The tragedy here is that in a quest to pin those deaths on Obama personally, and allow truth to be a fifth casualty in order to do so, the ability to investigate what actually happened and make sure it doesn’t happen again will become secondary and could get lost in the hubris.
There should be an investigation into what happened in Benghazi. But Fox News is not trying to figure out what happened. They are trying to pin it all on Obama and anyone close to him (David Petraeus, Hilary Clinton and now Rice… Who next, the White House janitor who has a cousin who once visited Benghazi?) rather than push for a simple investigation.
And once again, Republicans are letting Fox News lead them by the nose. They never learn, do they…
I decided to engage in some schadenfreude on the afternoon of the seventh, because we were at my aunt’s house, where the have a faux news channel. Watched a bit of this angry, depressed round-table program, heard one of the talking headless make a comment to the effect that since Obama had been re-elected, the caribou would now be free from having to contend with the Keystone Pipeline. I wanted to gloat, but gloating should not be painful. That is the calibre of people newscorp employs, either in terms of mental capacity or of ethical capacity, or maybe both.
I think I’ll find a partial transcript from the 700 Club, Joel Osteen, and Hannity or other FOX news programs. I doubt most would guess which network is which.
Fox News is a wing of the Republican Party, you heard it right on Fox. All pretense is done, they have as much as admitted it.
Fox didn’t admit it. A guest made the accusation.
I’m as disappointed as anyone, I thought they might just be willing to tell the truth, but alas it was not to be.