This is considered a fate worse than death, so no further punishment is required.
Sub-caste? Now I really want to see the worldwide numbers, flagged for area and standard-of-living. I was under the impression that the actual terrorists were the minority.
And as for all those 1.5 billion people, give it a generation or two. They’re not going to be able to get the laws in their new countries changed before growing up in the new country turns all their grandchildren into liberals. Though if you’re seriously worried about the meantime and want to try something nifty like banning all religion or something, that might be entertaining enough to get behind. But opposing Islam alone seems to me like a misidentification of the problem.
Probably yes. And the Catholics and other Christians in America believe similarly too I’m sure. It’s not like “I’d rather my child be dead than not believe in God (insert other religious belief as needed)” is an unusual sentiment among the believers. The difference is that unlike, say, Saudi Arabia the religious fanatics aren’t allowed to do as they please. Not as often at least; it still doesn’t keep kids that good American Christians think aren’t Christian enough from being shipped off to camps and beaten, starved and terrified into submission. It doesn’t keep good Christians from catching gays alone and beating them to death, or from murdering doctors who perform abortions.
Give American Christians the power to enforce their religion that you see in Islamic theocracies, you’d see atrocities as bad or worse than anything you see in an Islamic theocracy. Nazi Germany comes to mind as an example. The fact that they were a bunch of Christians wearing “God is with us” on their belt buckles sure didn’t keep them from murdering people.
Wait till you gice that power to atheists. THAT will make fatwas look like being sent to your room without dessert.
Oh yes, that’s right around the corner in the U.S.
Which atheists? Atheists don’t necessarily agree on anything except the nonexistence of gods you know.
Scolding the citizens of her own country is not her job.
My point is that the Secretary of State ignored the violence aimed at the United States in favor of castigating a citizen for an opinion.
For those saying Christianity has moved past violence to homosexuals and other groups I would point you to West Africa. Heavily Christian and some of the most homophobic areas in the world.
The problem isn’t the content of Islam at all. The problem is the same one we had in the West: low education, authoritarianism, and the fact that people who live hard lives seem to have a greater willingness to inflict violence upon others. We have moved past it in the West, but only recently and after centuries of brutallity.
If you want peace then tolerance, patience and support (you know, Christian values) are what is necessary, plus political moves to reduce authoritarianism. Religous war retoric and a holier than though attitude only makes the problem worse.
She’s a diplomat and Jones’ proposal inflamed (heh) Muslims around the world. So it relates to her job. Whereas scolding citizens of other countries is essentially undiplomatic by definition. By the way, here’s what that meanie Hillary said in her clearly pro-burqa remarks:
As far as I can tell, the “winners” in the Koran-burning incident are those looking for any excuse to rant about Islamic violence.
And the media.