In an analysis of the top 600 songs from 2012 to 2017 — defined by Billboard’s year-end Hot 100 chart for each of those six years — the study found that of 1,239 performing artists, 22.4 percent of them were women.
The numbers are much lower among people behind the scenes. Of the 2,767 songwriters credited on those songs, 12.3 percent were women. Female producers — the people most responsible for the sound of pop music — are even rarer, at just 2 percent in a subset of 300 songs across this same period, the study found.
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At the Grammy Awards, for example, the success of stars like Beyoncé, Taylor Swift and Adele may grab headlines. But a vast majority of awards go to men.
Of the 899 individuals who have been nominated for the last six Grammy ceremonies, 90.7 percent were men and 9.3 percent were women.
I don’t know what the gender ratio was in 16th century England. Traditionally, scholars have believed that in 17th century England, there were more women than men, which I think gets blamed on the Civil War, but no idea what it was in the 16th century. Why does matter? Please develop your argument.
It might only look like its male dominated but behind the scenes, women are good at getting their way.
Look at the Old West. Yes we talk about how this and that sheriff cleaned up a town but in reality, it was the women. Yes the women. Who chased out the bars and brothels and brought in schools, churches, libraries, clean streets, and social institutions like fine arts and book clubs. It was the women.
Exactly! Women in reality were never the helpless little taken advantage of wallflowers some would have us believe. And they weren’t all the book and flower club type either. Many men see the underlying truth of a woman’s strength in a joke I was sent the other day:
And thus that women are so often discriminated against in our society (even if things are better than they were 50 or 100 years ago) is a great miscarriage of justice. Right?
It is not Anecdote, the problem is that the term used to describe it is dismissed as political despite the realities.
If you mention that this is a side effect of “toxic masculinity” and as a great example where the “patriarchy” hurts men, you will be dismissed as as “hating men” or being “ashamed of you who you are” because well…the patriarchy.
Rhetoric is powerful, and the same tools and norms that keep us men in line are directly attributable to this behavior.
One of the proximate causes of this behavior is the social cost of being viewed as weak or expressing needs and concerns for men.
It drives up stress levels, results in preventable conditions from being diagnosed and treated and results in an economy where medical providers and suppliers target women which ends up being a more profitable direction.
‘Deaths of despair’ surging is another example of this, white men do not learn the coping mechanisms that others do, and we never will until we can realize that it is the system that is being challenged and not our artificially fragile egos that this same system that produced.
While I hate the term, being ‘woke’ as an adult white male has very real social costs right now, and unless you are lucky there is no mechanism in place to demonstrate the truth which is that ‘the emperor has no clothes’
To be clear this is a crappy thing all around, and I am not discounting the far more difficult challenges for female and non-white men experience. But without social support or societal models to index is is still hard.
We were all sold a bill of goods, and the only difference is the degree and/or type of pain.
A misogynist joke is your cite? This in the face of domestic violence and rape statistics. To say nothing of societies that treat women as second class citizens. You can’t be fucking serious.
As soon you said “white male” instead of men in general I almost wanted to stop your reading your post.
And I like how you mentioned “adult” in there, what are we gonna have ageism soon in our thread?
One of my favorite women of history was Laura Ingalls Wilder and while everyone knows her from her “Little House” books, they dont know her work behind the scenes to improve the lives of women and her community in general.
For example, she lead the push for good public bathrooms when at the time people were supposed to run out back behind a tree or outhouses were disgusting. She also started community book clubs for women and public libraries.
Yes – so you agree with me that the fact that women are so often discriminated against in our society (even though there has been progress) remains a great miscarriage of justice. Right?
What on earth is your point? Is this kind of like “Oprah is a billionaire, so Black people don’t experience discrimination?” or “Will and Grace was a hit, so there’s no longer any homophobia?”
“This one woman did awesome things, so clearly men don’t dominate society?”
If that’s your intent, that’s just…*astoundingly *poor logic.
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Is there any country anywhere in the world where men aren’t dominate in day-to-day life (as opposed to political leader or such)? Or in history, for that matter? It’s good now that women have better career options and rights and to try to equal things out, but I get annoyed by statements like “In this country…[discrimination complaint]”. Male dominance has been the case all throughout history and everywhere and is attributable to the fact that due to their greater physical prowess men have always been the ones to go out and hunt, built things and fight in wars, all of which in modern times morphed into supporting the family while women took care of things at home. So again let’s knock off blaming U.S. society for all the ills attributed to inequity between the sexes, because it’s always been the case everywhere in the world.
What’s that supposed to mean? Boys are assholes that need to be corrected by girls? Boys in general don’t need to be toned down. If anything, they need to be revved up.
If it were a male-dominated world, women would have to wear high heels. They don’t. They wear flats pretty much all the time. I rest my case.
I’m a man. I have no power or influence over anyone except my children. I’ve never been President, not even once for a little bit. Are you factoring me into the average?
Well, of course. You need to have enemies you can shoot, beat, kill, and abuse. Guess which gender’s suitable for such a role?
Only 11 woman served in the US Senate during this country’s first 200 years … that’s half the number currently sitting … and 22 out of 100 is still a national disgrace IMEIO …
There’s places in this world right now where women are never treated as adults … Until very recently, women couldn’t vote, couldn’t drive and couldn’t be seen outside their homes without being accompanied by their husband/father/brother … or the police will cut their heads off right there in the street …
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And yet, currently there are about 150 million women who are not senators. There are also about 150 million men who aren’t senators. Sounds like a tie to me.
They also believe men are completely unqualified to be nuns.
In other words, it’s really easy to find men in positions of power, influence and wealth if you don’t look in the shelters, gutters, and prisons. So stop cherry picking.
And yet, currently there are about 150 million women who are not senators. There are also about 150 million men who aren’t senators. Sounds like a tie to me.
They also believe men are completely unqualified to be nuns.
In other words, it’s really easy to find men in positions of power, influence and wealth if you don’t look in the shelters, gutters, and prisons. So stop cherry picking.
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Don’t forget nursery and teaching are still highly dominated by women :eek: