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It’s not a lie. US&Co. do want to destroy NK that has nuclear ICBMs - because such NK very publicly threatens extremely serious damage to the US.
And the window of time while this is true is short and closing.
It has been suggested that NK should be ‘bombed’ with information. Even dropping cell phones. A good idea, but many will be convinced that it’s all propaganda, or be killed for having such information/device.
We must certainly know where all the rocket launching facilities are. Even the mobile ones. My idea is that every time a rocket is launched, wipe out that launch system. Don’t say a thing. “Must have blown up on the launch pad”
And THEN, ‘bomb’ nearby communities with food and information. Two aircraft carriers should be able to do the job.
This does of course run a great risk of the artillery responding towards Seoul. For that, a few FAE’s where that artillery came from. - I am of the opinion that the arty ability is less than what is stated. And the ability of keeping it operational would fail quickly.
It’s seems odd to me that China has not stepped in to make it a sister state/colony. Lots of mineral and manpower resources to be exploited.
Or. We. Just let them be and they starve. Again and again.
Yeah, I’m just spitballin here.
It’s interesting how Americans are cavalier at the prospect of their own foreign policy destroying other cities, just as long as it’s not American cities that get destroyed. Why is the American military even in Asia to begin with?
There is nothing that the United States can do productively to deal with North Korea other than accepting the fact that they are a member of the nuclear club.
Considering South Koreas economic might, I think we should have been out of there 15-20 years ago.
There’s no real reason for the U.S. to be in Asia except to further American interests and influence in the reason, which of course serves U.S. interests. And often, something that serves our interests isn’t necessarily aligned with the interests of others. Korea and Japan could deal with South Korea about as well as we could. If North Korea were to launch all out war, it would end badly regardless of whether the U.S. military machine is present or not. The difference is that with the American presence, China has a reason to view North Korea’s belligerence as serving its own interests - China fears foreign encroachment on its southern border and a well-equipped and dangerous North Korean regime, as opposed to a impotent one, makes that a very messy proposition.
From the U.S. perspective, the only real argument that can be made to go all out on North Korea is to try to dispel the idea that America’s military presence is a paper tiger, that all it can really do to protect allies under its military shield is to trash talk on twitter. That’s the case to be made for an American assault on North Korea. But again, that would probably not be in the interests of the countries that are being “protected,” who have been living next to North Korea and quietly going about their business in the decades since North Korea became a nation-state. The problem for the U.S. is that it’s running out of time to make that sort of statement without paying a potentially heavy price in return. At least now the only damage that the U.S. would sustain directly would be perhaps the heavy loss of life of American military personnel and some civilians in U.S. territories. And let’s face it: most Americans don’t really and truly care about the lives of American military personnel and their families beyond putting yellow ribbon bumper stickers on their cars and watching war movies. If they cared, they wouldn’t be casually advocating reckless militaristic policies. War isn’t a video game or a movie; it’s brutal, nasty stuff.
The entire reason NK developed nukes is because they view the US as an existential threat and enemy. As recently as a few days ago (and many times before), NK said they want to reach nuclear parity with the US because they see that as their only way to avoid being destroyed.
To the best of my knowledge, the US is not threatening NK with absolute destruction.
You’ve also not addressed how your strategy would accomplish the destruction of NK nuke capacity but magically stop short of regime change. And even if that was practically possible, how would you keep the surviving regime from exacting revenge against the US by selling dirty bombs to every terrorist with enough cash and a desire to deliver these bombs to western democracies? This is something you claimed is one of your major fears about a nuclear capable NK.
I didn’t. I said the regime may change, but that’s not the goal of the intervention. The goal is destruction of nuclear capability. What regime is left or formed afterwards is not our concern.
After the intervention there would be no “dirty” materials to send anywhere.
During the intervention, what’s to stop NK from nuking SK or Japan with the missile tech they already have?
Too much crazy here to fully address.
The US is in SK because of a UN mandate and to protect our democratic ally. We also serve the economic interests of the region, save NK, by being their. Korea, China and Japan also do not play nice together. We bring stability to the region.
The endgame is Korean reunification under the aegis of SK. It will be culturally and economically devastating for the south but Koreans want to be unified and families reconnected. It serves Chinas interests to have an economically vibrant Korea on its borders. A deal to reunify Korea that includes a US pullout might be doable if NK carries on with the crazy.
And, no, the SK and the Japanese won’t be working closely together anytime soon.
And, no, the NK will never gain nuke parity with the US.
It’s easy to stop NK selling nukes. Blocade their ports. If they try the international community will stop them. Islamic separatists attack China often so the Chinese won’t allow this.
I think both of these statements involve unrealistic or magical thinking.
I hear that last sentence a lot. The problem is I don’t believe it. (I’m considering the leadership, specifically Kim Jong-Un, not the people, who unfortunately don’t get a vote in the matter.)
I don’t believe Kim is suicidal, of course, but he wouldn’t be the first or last dictator to be “insane”.
You vastly overestimate the power of NK.
An isolated state, sanctioned for years, with a GDP ranked 125th in the world, has managed to create a functioning nuclear program and ICBM arsenal.
I think you vastly underestimate their determination.
At the cost of their economy and their infrastructure. They imagine the Chinese will continue to prop them up. They might be wrong.
If they are so determined to survive there are many different and preferable roads for them to take. Their isolation fuels their insanity.
No argument there.
The Korean War has not officially ended Korean Armistice Agreement - Wikipedia giving the US, SK and China a way to bypass NK, reunify the Korean Penninsula and get the US out of the Penninsula…if the NKs go too far.