Is it OK to lie to vegetarians about what they are eating?

Wow. When you’re criticizing Ingrid Newkirk for not being sufficiently animal-rightsy, you’re pretty…interesting.

Thing is, he could legitimately criticize the sauce for being produced by battery hens and go off on a screed about how battery hens are treated. The “chicken embryo” screed doesn’t even make sense.

One question: is he right that the white is what develops into the chicken? I always thought it was the yolk, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen pictures of fertilized eggs that support that.

Daniel

I remember the Simpsons episode where Lisa meets a boy and is trying to impress him with how committed she is:

Lisa: I’m a vegetarian.
Boy: That’s a start I suppose.
Lisa: Well, I’ve been thinking about becoming a vegan.
Boy: Being a vegan’s enough for some people, I guess, but I don’t eat anything that has a shadow.

No no no no, it’s “I’m a level five vegan. I don’t eat anything that casts a shadow”. And he pocket mulches, too!

Wow, I refuse to read that link just on the basis of this alone. He really said that? Then there’s no point reading the rest of his words, 'cause that’s so wrong as to be wrong wrong.

The yolk is the food source, the white is mostly cushioning and shock absorber, and the embryo develops from a little white dot on the yolk. Wait, was that “the white” he’s talking about? Not the clear “white of the egg” but he white dot on the yolk? Now I’m confused. Or he is. Let’s say he is.

I still don’t want to read him.

Another vote for “It’s wrong to lie to people about what’s in their food”.

Ask any member of my family and they’ll be sure to tell you “Cazzle doesn’t like tomatoes”. Nothing could be further from the truth: I love them and would eat them with every meal if I could. However, my stomach doesn’t like them and if I eat them, I get dreadful stomach pains and have to lock myself in the bathroom for hours. It’s not an allergy as people understand it but tomatoes do make me very sick - yet anyone relying on what my family said would think I was just a picky eater. I’ve had “friends” try to slip tomatoes into my meal (via tomato and onion sausages), somehow convinced that I’m mistaken and if I just eat some I’d find out that I was ok and hey, this stuff is good! but what they don’t realise is that it’s been a long and painful process to work out that I need to exclude from my diet a food that I really love. With all that in mind, I could never lie to anyone about what was in their food even if their only reason for not eating it was pickyness. Sometimes “I don’t like that” is code for “It gives me chronic diarrhea and I’d rather not talk about it”.

Here’s the quote:

Which part of the egg becomes the chicken, the white
or the yolk?" The answer, or course, is the white.
Yolk means food, and provides nutrients for a chicken
who grows within a shell. Eat egg whites, and you are
eating a developing chicken embryo. Most people do so
without a second thought, but vegetarians are not
“most people.” If vegetarians are told that they
are eating a vegetarian burger, they do not expect
to devour the fetus of a potential living creature.

Here’s a good diagram of a chicken egg. The blastoderm there at the top of the yolk is what develops into a fetus, if the egg is fertilized. Otherwise, it’s just a lonely gamete.

http://chickscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/explore/embryology/day01/the_yolk.html

I don’t have a problem if someone wants to be a vegetarian - knock yourself out. I only have a problem with the vegetarians who infringe on my desire to eat meat.

So here’s a question for the doper vegetarians:

Let’s say you had the chance to vote for a law that would forbid the consumption of meat. Would you vote for such a law?

If your answer is “yes,” then I have a definite problem with you…

No, I could care less what you eat. What other people eat isn’t even up in my “things to think about” zone.

Um, no, I would not vote for such a law, dietary choice is a personal issue, as with so many ethical choices. Room for many views, with good flexibility. Coexistence, kindness, and all.

That doesn’t have much to do with the OP, though.