Is it okay to encourage a child who chooses to be transexual?

Nope. They don’t. They are, however, murdered by other children who are Anti-Christ.

This kid is TOOOOO young to even be wasting HIS time on this. His parents are encouraging him? Did they explain menstruation?

He’s not at an age where he can really understand the difference between the genders. He’s probably getting to understand that girls get a certain kind of attention, maybe he likes that and wants attention, who knows? If that’s true, get him on the baseball team, let him hit a homer and he’ll get to understand more about girls on a “personal” level.

I would only entertain this question from a kid after he’s at least memorized the periodic table or something. :rolleyes:

I stand by my assertion that in particular Lacunae Quell’s religion is little more than childish foolishness. It leads him or her to believe that transgendered peoples are weak and sinful to live their lives.

If another religion is not so hateful and worthless I’ll judge it separately, kay? I’ve met nice Christians. I haven’t met a nice christian that thinks people should live lives of bizarre half-man or half-woman neuters because god said so.

Yeah, riiiiight. Here we are again, with the fundie Christian claiming Christians are terribly, terribly persecuted in a nation they have overwhelming power in.

Name one time in this country where a child was murdered by other children for being a Christian.

Okay, you’re a god.

So what?

Awww, shit, I should’ve read WHO started this OP. Lacunae, I am having a hard time wrapping MY mind on the connundrum that every subject that hits your mind and seeps through the filter has a religious background. If this was about vacuuming a living room, you’d find a way to make it religious.

Still, 8 is too young for this silliness. He’ll grown out of it, and I certainly hope he doesn’t grow boobs 'cause his parents vouch for the estrogen pills.

I’m just trying to make a point… just about everything a person chooses is because of some mental function because of the way their mind is built… if transgenderism is a biological condition that many people have, then maybe a belief in a higher power is a biological condition that people have.

The point was that people are willing to let boys be girls because of a mental condition… meaning that the person’s true gender is based on what their mind says they are… so if belief in a higher power is a biological condition, then those who believe they are going to Heaven and are a child of God know they are truly going to Heaven and are truly a child of God because it’s what their mind tells them.

So if you’re going to believe a male when he says he’s a female, and acknowledge him as a female… then why not believe a Christian when they say that their mind and their biological condition is telling them that God is real and He sent Jesus to redeem mankind from death and that all who believe in Him will have eternal life?

We cross the streams, of course !

Thank you, Miller! You summarized perfectly. This debate is like, “What’s the point of decaf coffee? Moses didn’t drink it!”

EMWIGMT!

Your analogy fails utterly. Gender tags how people in our culture are treated and many of their interactions. If someone is viewing the world from a female lens it is only polite to treat them that way.

However you being a god is simply fantasy. There is no biological role for godhood and no social method for dealing with gods.

I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that there is as much evidence that you are god as Jehova. :smiley:

Here’s a question: when you were a child, did you identify as a gender? For most people, the answer is yes, even if they didn’t understand all the particulars. Kids start identifying as a gender at a very early age–as infants or toddlers, even. And they do this despite the environment. God knows radical ideologues have tried to show otherwise, with disastrous results (see David Reimer).

People’s gender identity is not infinitely mutable, a plastic to be developed as teams of doctors see fit. Sometimes Nature makes a mistake and a person’s mind is put into the body of the wrong sex. That person identifies differently than what society labels their body. In that case, the best option by far is to recognize it early so appropriate steps can be taken.

There were eye witness testimonies at Columbine high who heard the murderers asking people if they believed in God… if those people said “Yes”… POP

so uhh… what did you just say? I’m going to pretend you didn’t actually say that because I know you know better…

I’ve seen pictures of a 5 year old who was murdered by his 6 year old friend because he lost one of his toys. This photo showed that 5 year old with both of his legs cut off at the upper thigh because the 6 year old took a hacksaw and tried to get rid of the evidence before the 5 year old’s mother came back inside the house.

People kill people for anything… no matter what the age… no matter what the reason.

I dunno. I don’t care that I am… I just am. It’s not like it’s a big deal… I mean it is but I don’t make a big deal of it… and I wasn’t making a big deal about it when I claimed I was… I’m just making a point that I am what I say I am because of what my mind says that I am… and I’m sure I’ve got speckles or polkadots or a plaid pattern somewhere on hypothalamus that says so too.

Somebody Pit this guy, I haven’t got the energy.

The FBI disagrees.

I seriously doubt that.

Wrong.

EDIT : Beaten to it !

Well what if that child’s parents, say. a little girl’s dad, really wanted a boy… but he had a daughter… yet dad still treats her like a son and a boy from the day she’s born?

what if the mentioned 8 yo transsexual’s parent(s) wanted a girl and since day one this child was treated like a girl? What if when this child did something wrong or not to his father’s expectations and his father called him things like “you’re nothing but a little sissy girl”…

could that have any effect on the mental development of a child? Are transsexual males born with these speckles on their hypothalamus? Or do these speckles form based on the way the child is treated and raised and based on his environment?

Look. Transgendered people do have a biological problem. Part of their body is biologically one gender, and part of their body is biologically a different gender. I think we both agree that it would be better for the person if they could make all of their body the same gender, right? Well, that’s the point of gender reassignment. Because it’s not possible to change the physical structure of their brain to make it the correct gender, they’re changing the physical structure of their bodies to make it the right gender. The question I have for you is, why is the genitalia the determining factor of gender? If you were in a terrible accident today, and lost your frank and beans, would you stop being male? If you lost your entire body below the waist, would you no longer be a guy? If you were reduced to a brain floating in a jar, would it alter your essentially self identity as a male? No. Because your brain is physically, structurally male. And most people would agree that the brain is far more central to one’s sense of self than one’s body. So why is this suddenly different when the brain of physically, structurally female, and the body is male? Why is the physiology below the neck taking precedent over what’s happening above the neck?

You mentioned earlier that you think everyone has a God-given burden to over come. While I’m an atheist, I don’t necessarily have a problem with this idea. A kid born with a spinal problem who can’t walk - that’s his God-given burden to over come, right? If a doctor comes to him and says, “We have an operation that will allow you to walk,” do you say to the kid, “You shouldn’t have that operation. God gave you a crippled body, and no matter how much you want to walk, no matter how much it pains you to have to live in a wheelchair, you have to just deal with it, because that’s what God wants.” I’m going to guess that you would not say that to the kid, right?

So how is transgenderism different from that kid in the wheelchair?

It’s something you are born with. Nothing can change it; it’s been tried with tragic consequences.

I think that’s what he wants. Let’s not feed his persecution complex any more than necessary.

Oh, by the way, Lacunae, care to come up with an actual example of Christian kids being murdered for their religion?

I can, but you’d have to go back to Ancient Rome, or perhaps places in Europe wher people were murdered for not being the right flavor of Christianity. (Protestant vs. Catholic, etc)