What “obvious sanitary reasons” are those?
Basically that many men, especially when inebriated, are very bad at aiming. - foreskin or no foreskin.
When my son was a teenager we put a cork in the bowl for him to aim at and this improved matters.
It didn’t flush away?
GOOGLE German toilet. Unlike American toilets which have lots of water to aim at, German toilets have a large shelf and tiny opening. It’s mostly dry. Almost no matter where you pee you are going to hit porcelain, which I would assume causes lots of splatter.
Urine is sterile.
And it’s quite possible to dribble even when sitting.
This weird obsession with urine and “private parts” is strange.
The same folks who disallow standing urination likely have towels in their bathroom.
I see confused looks, so I explain:
You hands are the dirtiest part of your body*, maybe excluding your ass crack and your feet if you go barefoot. People are bad at washing their hands. So a person walks in, urinated, then does the perfunctory and ritualistic quick “wetting of the hands” , then wipes those germ laden and now wet digits on your towel. You then come in, wash like a surgeon even, then wipe with that germy towel.
Compared to a few drops of urine, this is like wiping your hands with used diapers.
Another thing I see- obsessive cleaning in the kitchen, wiping things down with the same sponge. That kitchen sponge is the single most germ laden thing in your house, bar none. Especially as it’s wet and full of crevices with rotting food particles, which could contain salmonella. Perfect bacterial growth media, puts petri dishes to shame. Using “antibacterial soap” makes things worse.
Dont get me wrong, keeping one of those “pop up” canisters full of cleaning clothes so that dribbles can be cleaned up is a Good idea. Stale urine smells.
Oh, and also- guys- when you go to urinate, and there’s already standing urine in the bowl- there’s no use flushing first. You are NOT going to splash other guys urine on you. It just wastes water. You can flush after if you like, or not if you are a bit of a nut about saving resources, but flushing first is crazy.
Finally ladies and gents in a mixed sex house. Put the toilet LID down after use. Not just the seat.
*Far filthier than the average penis, at any rate.
I like my method: always carry a moist wipe/wet wipe/baby wipe/물티 packet, wipe the seat with said wipe, sit down to do the necessary business, use another wipe to, er, clean the business end, wash hands with the provided soap and water (or if no soap provided, use another wipe) for cleaning the hands, then depart the facility. I’ve done that almost my entire life. And I don’t care if anyone mocks me for it; I’d rather not walk around with “splash back” on my clothing.
As for hand-washing, I follow the method I saw years ago in a public school in Korea: wet the hands, put soap on the hands, lather the soap by rubbing the soap all over the hands, scrubbing the palm and back of the hands, and also using the fingers of one hand to wash between the fingers of the other (splay the fingers to do this) while washing the palm and while washing the back of the hand. Sing the Alphabet Song once or Happy Birthday twice or anything else you can think of that will ensure you wash for a sufficient time. Of course, you don’t have to sing it out loud.
Of course, here in Asia, I do my best–unless I’m in Singapore (even in Japan, I saw some rather nasty “crime scene calibre” public toilets)–to avoid having to use the public loos unless absolutely necessary. Let’s just say that for quite a few locales I’ve been to on this continent, cleanliness in the WC isn’t even on the radar. It’s not just the splash back that’s at issue. Could be worse, I guess. One of my neighbors back in Maoming dropped her brand new cell phone while going to the loo at a roadside rest stop on a cross country trip. That rest stop did not have flush toilets, just a largish outhouse. Her mother paid for a new phone but her father said she should have retrieved the one she dropped!
Oh, for your reading pleasure while you’re in the “reading room” next time.
Myth. It’s only sterile while still in the bladder (or, as recent research implies, maybe not even then). Once it hits the urethra bacteria already begins to mingle with it.
Thank you, zombie thread, for giving me “Sitzpinkler”!
Also… now I’m all worried. I haven’t got a penis. My husband hasn’t got a foreskin. We chose not to circumcise our son mostly because I really cared. And now I don’t know how to tell him where to pee! (Currently he wouldn’t listen even if I could, and just pees wherever. In a strong, single stream. Gleefully. Sometimes in anger.)
Cecil discusses a closely related question, with educational illustration of gentlepeer aiming for the fly.
I can’t believe no one has commented on the obvious inconvenience of pissing sitting down. Do all you men spend all day in sweat pants? For me, it would require opening my belt completely, opening pants and dropping with boxers, taking off my jacket, gathering my shirt tails, guarding my tie, then finally pissing. Then pulling up boxers, then pants, then tucking and straightening shirt, then zipping and buttoning pants, then rebuckling belt, then straightening tie, then putting jacket back on.
Or unzip, piss, rezip. I can’t believe this is a discussion.
ALL men retract? That goes against my observations, which are limited to the scene where Jim Cary takes a leak after spending a night with Renee Zellweger.
Oh boo hoo. Add a tampon to that scenario and then tell what a pain it is.
Boo hoo complaining wasn’t the point. The point was, why go to all that trouble when there is a much easier way available? If you don’t have an easier way available, end of discussion.
I think that German court was wrong, by the way. If a man is going to end up with pee on the floor, even a small amount, he should be responsible for cleaning it up, or for paying for damages if he failed to clean it up before damage set in. (This is in references to Hooleehootoo’s link.)
I’m glad you chose not to mutilate him; he will be very thankful for this (although he might, for private reasons, choose not to express his gratitude) when he reaches a somewhat more mature age, and won’t have to resort to hand-cream or petroleum jelly to get the job done…
Why not in the toilet?
Don’t all small children? And how is, in your opinion, this fact connected to him being uncircumcised?
Herodotus in his Histories, written in the 5th century BC, reports of the Egyptians that the men urinated sitting whereas the women stood.
And now, as a direct result of reading this thread, I need to pee.
Pastor Steven L. Anderson pisseth against the wall
Holy hilarity ensueth…
Well, sure. I could pee standing. But it makes a hell of a mess.
I’ve never understood this. Are American males that bad at masturbation that they need such help?
Not masturbation, not intercourse. Primary lubrication for intercourse comes from the woman, or so I’m told. And masturbation does not require a lubricant.
There is no reason for there to be a difference in the neatness of male peeing due to circumcision or lack of same. For the anxious mother above, I recommend teaching him to pee standing up, but neatly, and to clean up after himself if there is any poorly aimed, splashed, or dribbled pee. I also recommend teaching him to clean thoroughly under his foreskin every day, to prevent medical and social problems.
Next time bring cites concerning men’s urine, not women’s.
And for that matter, don’t cite the same research twice as if it were from two different studies.