Note that post #11 in that thread indicates that the “Just once, for 20 minutes” meme goes back before that thread.
It’s from this thread.
I know I’m in the minority on this one but while it was indeed very pretty I thought the alien world wasn’t particulary interesting or imaginative, its basically just a flourescent multi-coloured jungle with six-limbed creatures.
I’m also someone who doesn’t have any interest in or understand the attraction of living in a primitive non-technological society.
Still I enjoyed the movie for what it was and I do wonder what direction he’s going to go with the sequels.
As for Cameron himself I lost a lot of respect for him when he portrayed a named historical person as a coward in the Titanic movie when in real life he was actually a hero. Why he felt the necessity to do that I don’t know.
Right. The phrase was actually repeated in the OP.
We are easily amused.
Hi, I’d like to tell you about 1996’s Titanic.
And thank you for proving Miller’s point.
I guess I don’t care if they make a dozen more Avatar movies but I find it a little weird how the highest grossing movie ever seems to have left such a tiny imprint on the public consciousness. Right after the movie, we were treated to clickbait article about how people were committing suicide because they couldn’t live on Pandora or whatever nonsense but shortly after I never heard it mentioned. No kids dressing up as Avatar things for Halloween or shirts or toys lasting past the usual tie-in merchandise phase or people talking about it online, etc. It really feels like a sequel no one really cares about from a film we just remember as “that blue alien movie with the 3D”. No characters worth remembering; you had White Guy-turned-Blue Guy, Blue Girl, Mean Military Guy and Signorney Weaver.
I understand that Cameron was chewed out by some First Peoples/Natives on his hackneyed story line and has spent considerable effort in re-thinking his approach. Time will tell.
I think what he accomplished technologically with Avatar was amazing. I’m certainly willing to see what happens next. I even loved the hackneyed story.
Titantic though? That can sink and die. Please. Forever.
It’s been eight years since Avatar was released and it will be eleven years when the first sequel is released. Does anyone ever think about this movie? Star Wars and Star Trek have a great deal of fan activity (fan fiction, books, toys, conferences, etc) built up around them. But does Avatar? Not to my knowledge. I know that everyone in Hollywood wants a franchise, but I don’t think this is it.
If it was anyone else, I’d think that the Avatar sequels were not a good idea, that it’s been too long since the original movie and people aren’t interested anymore. But it is James Cameron and people thought Titanic and Avatar would be failures and they definitely weren’t. I don’t understand the thing that Cameron has for Avatar, and definitely don’t understand making a theme park and so many sequels, but I can also understand the movie execs who think they’d be idiots to bet against him.
Since he has spent so long getting the sequels made, maybe there is some really amazing effects and things in the movies that will get people to come out. There’s also still time to drum up interest in the franchise, maybe with some comic books or an animated series, it’d be a way to get a certain segment of the crowd excited. And I’m sure there will be the advertising blitz to beat all advertising blitzes closer to the date.
Which makes me really question why Disney dumped so much money into creating a new Pandora area complete with rides into one of their theme parks opening later this year. The movie had its buzz 8 years ago. Any kid under 14 has never heard of Avatar and any kid over 14 has forgotten about it. And it won’t be revived till 2020?
Universal is making buckets of money with its Harry Potter theme park areas and Disney will do the same when their Star Wars area is complete. Why they chose to make a Pandora area seems like an idea way out in left field.
And half of those characters are dead now.
Sent from my SCH-I435 using Tapatalk
Only it didn’t. Titanic is an excellent movie.
Which is a matter of opinion. Miller clearly had Titanic in mind when he made that post.
I think you have to look at the timing. At the time, Disney didn’t own Lucasfilm. There was Star Tours at Disneyland and that was it for any collaboration. Universal was about to make a big splash with Harry Potterworld and somebody at Disney panicked. But here’s this super-popular, massively-grossing completely-new property that we can get in on. And, remember, it wasn’t supposed to take 11 years to get a sequel made and I’m sure the original construction timeline for the park area wasn’t anywhere near what it’s been. It may be that finishing it is an example of the sunk-cost fallacy, but we’ll see.
I’ve read that James Cameron will soon regain control of the Terminator franchise and is planning a new movie (planned to be a reboot). That seems a better idea than a bunch of Avatar sequels.
The key word here is “arguably”. For all he’s done in cinema that deserves real praise he really doesn’t get 3D at. You can credit him for inventing the equipment but Avatar was not his crowning achievement. It was an amazingly bad movie for the money it generated. It had me wishing a 400 block of unobtainium would fall and crush his ego back to titanic proportions.
Honestly, the main reason I’m excited for this is that its pretty clear that no one is pushing for more Avatar movies except Cameron. Given that almost every sci-fi franchise at this point is full of sequels and reboots that feel almost obligatory, I’m kinda in to one where the director wants to do the sequels, and doesn’t have to cater to a bunch of audience nostalgia. (compare, say, The Hobbit, which felt like some studio exec must’ve been holding a gun to Peter Jackson’s head half the time).
Note that post #11 in that thread indicates that the “Ah, they’re 1920’s style “Death Rays.”” meme goes back before that thread.
Good ol’ post #11.