In the common law world, there are limited or no powers to arrest people in furtherance of an investigation. But in the civil law world this is common.
I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised, if an extradition agreement between two civil law countries provided for country A to extradite an individual to country B for investigation in circumstances which, if they arose in country A, would justify the arrest of the invidual for investigation in country A.
That would depend on the bilateral arrangement between country A and country B. There is the European Arrest Warrant, a multilateral arrangement between all EU member states. But it is only available to support the recovery of someone already sentenced, or to support a prosecution, not to support an investigation.
The fact situation here (what little there is of it anyway) got me to thinking …
Is it a crime, in any jurisdiction you know of, to promise that you will not come inside the woman, but you do anyway? (I know, I know, even a little pre-cum can still cause pregnancy, but I know at least that some woman make a serious distinction between coming inside and coming outside).
She was hanging out with him the next day. Similar with Woman B who made breakfast in the morning. They both only pressed charges when they found out about the other woman.
Actually no, because it is irrelevant to the charge. If he said he would use a condom and didn’t, or started and refused to stop when it broke/took it off and refused to stop, then in most US jurisdictions at least, he is guilty of rape. The victims motivation for reporting it isn’t relevant. Nor is their having breakfast with him afterwards. Shit, many women have sex voluntarily with people who have earlier raped them - doesn’t alter the rape itself at all.
Going from first principles here - I would say it is yes if you do it knowingly or purposefully, not if you do it neglegently or recklessly. Obviously this is going to be very difficult to prove.
Even for the people who don’t like Assange of Wikileaks and what they do you’ve got to admit it’s a strange time for him to embark upon a career of multiple rape.
I’m not interested in what US law says, and I really don’t see how it’s at all relevant. I’m talking about the morality of claiming rape as a way of getting revenge on a former lover, with the intent of having him thrown in jail. It might be legally ok, but it’s morally far worse (imo) than what he is alleged to have done.
Bullshit. If I call the cops on my neighbor for running a meth lab, should he get off because the only reason I am doing it is because he has crap taste in music he plays too loudly?
In fact, how is the morality of his actions impacted at all by the motivations I have for dropping the dime on him? The two are completely separate. I may be morally wrong to dime him in for my selfish reasons, but it doesn’t affect the morality of his actions.
A woman can chose not to report a rape (and fucking a woman after she says stop, for whatever reason, is rape) for whatever reason she wishes. Part of it may well be that she wants an ongoing relationship with the person (which happens). If she then discovers there isn’t going to be that relationship, because he is screwing (and allegedly raping) someone else, it doesn’t take an Einstein to realize that the motivation for not reporting is no longer present. And to state that in your humble opinion that is far worse than raping someone in the first place says plenty about your outlook on life.
Agreed. This seems less like they agreed to have sex with him without a condom and then brought charges and more like the condom broke, they wanted him to stop, and he didn’t. The former isn’t rape and the latter definitely is.
Well, he’s an ‘alleged’ rapist until convicted. I really think there will be an incident within the next few days or weeks where he ends up Fosterized. But I could be wrong.
But if he is banging Swedish women to the point that two are complaining to the police, then I think I need to make an appointment to see my doctor, because my gaydar is broken.
It’s obviously fine if he actually did rape either of them, but it doesn’t sound like he did. And I think that a false rape accusation, if successful, is worse than lying about using a condom. Colour me crazy. A few undeserved years in prison, which may in itself include several rapes, is a worse hardship than someone you are willing to have sex with not wearing a condom. Far worse. That you can argue otherwise just shows how impossible it is to have a sensible conversation about rape; condom-based, statutory or otherwise.
There are varying degrees of rape. A single punch and a serious beating might both be classed as assault, but they are not identical. Same as someone not stopping sex when asked is not the same as someone who forced their way onto the woman in the first place. It’s still a fucking horrible thing to do. But it’s not as bad as making up a false rape claim out of spite. And if these claims turn out to be bunk, and are provably so (unlikely), then I think the women should see jail.
And that’s a major change from what you were saying before.
To me what that seems to be saying is that “only press[ing] charges when they found out about the other woman” indicates “it’s some petty revenge plan.”
As I showed you, even if this is the only reason they report it, it has no bearing on the truth of the allegation. If it is a fake allegation, fine, deal with the person making it. But presuming it is fake because of the reason it is made is flat out wrong.
Definitely. There ARE people here and there clamoring for his death (for his murder). Doesn’t any “law abiding citizen” other than me have a problem with it?