There are degrees of racism and degrees if intent. I’d say she was on the low end of both, but certainly on the scale.
It’s the B-side of the white woman who worries that every black dude wants to fuck her.
Agreed, I was also a bit shocked she got far less crap for talking about how she was looking forward to “grinding up against Michael B. Jordan” and her claim afterwards that “she wouldn’t apologize for being a straight girl”.
Can anyone imagine the reaction if say Jonah Hill had publicly made such a comment about Halle Berry or Kevin Hill had said that about say Taylor Swift?
Agreed. I find it amazing how many white people seem to think white liberals can’t possibly be guilty of racism.
That said, I will say that even if she’d made such comments about say David Beckham they’d still be pretty offensive and show a huge degree of narcissism and entitlement.
I’m reminded of the line from the recent Ghostbusters “I don’t know if it’s a woman thing or a black thing, but I’m pissed!”
At that: can you imagine Lena Dunham’s reaction if a guy who’d stood next to her loudly complained that she sure didn’t act like he was fuckable?
Why do I get the feeling she need not worry who’ll be seated next to her at the next Met Gala…
But that’s the thing, she acts like to this day she still doesn’t *know *she is, or believes she can’t possibly be because she’s a non-conventional female.
Bullshit. Someone already addressed the issue with her sister (and the story about her looking inside her sister’s vagina, at least the way she described it, sounded rather off).
However, bitching about badly made sushi? C’mon, is making shitty pizza an insult to Italians? (And c’mon, she’s talking about fucking cafeteria food, it’s always shitty. Oh, sushi, because it’s foreign, it has to be special and exotic and authentic. Because there’s no such thing as food adapting to a new culture? Fusion cuisine? Please. (Does this mean that pre-packaged ramen is now culturally-insensitive?)
She doesn’t care about social justice – she cares about getting attention.
Sexist… maybe, but not racist.
He’s a young professional athlete who is in phenomenal shape and good at what he does. I don’t doubt that he has his pick of any number of much hotter and willing women white, and black, so the fact that he didn’t particularly pay any attention to Lena Dunham in that tuxedo just means that he’s a normal guy who’s not attracted to dumpy, weird and not pretty.
Hell, if I was single, I wouldn’t have even given her a second glance, even had I not already seen the goods on television.
Favorite comment on Lena Dunham (apropos of a photo in which she is insufficiently clothed):
“My God! Where’s Capt. Ahab when you need him?”
I don’t understand why anyone would care what either of these attention-whores thinks. I think that the fact that they had a thought at all is amazing and, of course, it’s all about poor,poor pitiful them.
I don’t know if the racism angle is relevant, but there’s an extreme hypocrisy in feminists, who are fond of screaming at men “you aren’t entitled to sex!” proceeding to then endlessly whine about men not being attracted to overweight women. Especially when Lena is rich enough that she could easily lose the weight if she chose to. She could pay someone to determine her caloric needs, prepare all her food, and follow her around 24/7 to serve her the right food and slap donuts out of her hand. (As joked about by Amy Schumer here and possibly ripped off from Kathleen Madigan here.)
And as mentioned above, “I attempted to grind my ass on Michael B. Jordan for an additional 20 minutes and then left right after you,” would be clearly be considered by feminists to be sexual assault if a man did it to an uninterested women.
I don’t think the issue is race or sexism, but rather that Dunham was/is obnoxious and malicious enough to project an entire lengthy mental conversation inside someone else’s head (Beckham’s) and then use that in an accusatory, attacking way against Beckham without Beckham having said or done a single thing to deserve it.
Who’s the other person referred to by “either”?
Her comment was originally made in an interview/discussion with Amy Schumer.
Lena Dunham Finally Apologizes To Odell Beckham Jr. After Cringeworthy Amy Schumer Interview
OK, now this is unnecessary. In reality she should not have to care - she’s rich, currently a succesful celebrity, what really should happen and she has herself acknowledged so in her apology, is that she should get over her looks insecurity and be happy with who she is rather than blast others because she imagines them to be shallow, and should be looking for people who relate to her on her own terms and not care about those who don’t. She admits that is easier said than done but one would expect that by now she’d have *some *practice at it, she can’t have been *that *sheltered… or maybe she could have been.
Yep. As I alluded to earlier, I’m left wondering if absent the implication of racism in the reaction to the interview she would have had the same realization of what was it she was doing wrong.
No,she should “have” to and that would apply even if she wasn’t rich and invited to celebrity events. But she’s the one showing up looking disheveled and unattractive (again, her right) and then bitching about how guys don’t find her fuckable enough.
It’s 100% her right to be out of shape, dress in an ill-fitted rumpled suit and have her hair slicked down like Ms. Poindexter. Not so much her right to blame others for not finding that attractive. That said, while one solution is learning to accept that fact that people don’t find you attractive, another option that’s available is learning how to dress and groom yourself rather than swimming through a sea of self-pity until you reach the far shores. Which is easier done when you have millions of dollars.
This article is just opinion but if you believe it then the answer is yes, she was that sheltered.
“She did not get this way by accident; she got this way because the series of economic and intellectual cloisters in which she has lived her life have functioned as the emotional equivalent of Song-dynasty foot-binding: Intended to bring her nearer to perfection, they have instead left her disfigured and disabled.”
This is just another illustration of what’s wrong with her work, IMHO. It seems to attach most situations to attractiveness, and in some way back to her poor body image. I’m not sure if that’s what she set out to do with the series she is most known for, but between the content and her public behavior relating to how she presents or reacts to anything regarding her attractiveness, it seems baked in.
That’s a fine subject for an episode of a TV series. Being attractive is a useful attribute when you’re trying to get along in the world. If you decide to make it a central theme of the series? Ehh, there’s much better TV out there. Having it be a central part of your personality to the point where it seems to seep into your public and artistic life at every turn? Double Ehh, no thanks. I’m from a family with a high proportion of obese people, and I’m pretty short and fat myself. All of us seem to manage to get laid often enough to satisfy us. Heck, sometimes we even do it with people who are “out of our league” at first glance. It turns out, charm and personality can get you very far in this world, as well. As a result, her outlook seems pretty short sighted.
So, IMHO, not really racial stereotyping, given the evidence we know about Ms. Dunham.
And as a personal message to her: Baby, if you feel like you’re a moped, get over it. I’m a rusty '83 Corolla with a Pontiac Firebird decal on the hood. I still don’t make any sense after you’ve gotten over what I look like and you’ve finally decide to ride me, and I’ll never cease be awkward in a comfortable way, but I’ll at least make you laugh while you have a good time.
Yes, it was racist and sexist. Or maybe not. Whichever answer will shut her up faster.
I didn’t think it sounded quite so much like bitching as an attempt at amused detachment about the idea that men and athletes in particular have limited capabilities in discernment. Very similar to the tired cracks about how men will stick their junk in any old hole.
She could lose 50 lbs and I still wouldn’t hit it.