Is it any wonder the girl’s got an eating disorder when that article goes on to talk about “who got skinny, who got fat?” As if these people can be summed up by one characteristic.
I remember, years ago, when they were still kids, watching an SNL skit in which one twin grew up to be gorgeous and the other gained a lot of weight and became obese (I can’t remember which one was which). Hijinks ensued! The audience guffawed! Fat teenage girls! Hysterical! Ha-Ha! Those obnoxious kids! Let’s pick on them!
I know that SNL meant no harm. But I wonder if she saw that. It’s well-known that the fat jokes on Growing Pains were a trigger for Tracey Gold. I don’t know if one little skit would have that much effect though . . .
I couldn’t care less. Shit, if someone promised to pay me 10 billion dollars or however much they have, I’ll gladly develop an eating disorder.
She’ll cope, she’ll live, not a big deal.
This…has got to be the most ignorant post I’ve read on this board in a while.
Or maybe I’m just a little sensitive because I’ve had someone close to me suffer from an eating disorder. No, it is, in fact, the most ignorant post I’ve read in a while.
My friend did (thank god) live, and, in fact, is doing quite well, now. But it is a big deal, still. She still has to very carefully watch what she eats to avoid triggering a relapse and once again compromising her health.
Would you make this same comment about my friend? If not, remember two things:
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No matter what you think of her as an actress, or a businessperson, Mary-Kate Olsen is a real 18 year old girl, with real family and friends, who care about her, are worried for her, and would be devistated if she was to die, or permanently damage her health (she sought treatment, so, thankfully, this isn’t likely to happen).
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Your comments ridicule not just Mary-Kate, but my friend, and everyone else who suffers, had suffered, or will suffer from an eating disorder.
If you would…well, my response to you wouldn’t be welcome outside the Pit.
While duderdude’s comment was particularly insensitive tengu, it’s not as faulty as your insinuating that he was somehow insulting everyone with an eating disorder and your friend in particular. I believe the gist of what duder was saying is that these girls have had so much oppurtunity and money that an eating disorder is something she’ll have to deal with like that rest of us (and also that he would gladly trade that for even a portion of her. wealth). While this kind of thinking is i believe wrong, he never showed disrespect to your friend as she is not a multi millionaire (i presume) and certainly isn’t Mary-Kate Olsen. Everything doesn’t apply to you. I don’t mean to offend.
Tengu, my own sister has had an eating disorder, so don’t try and pull that “you don’t know what it’s like” card. I have no respect for those who develop such disorders. Now that doesn’t mean I don’t wish them the best of luck and hope they make it through this ordeal, but I have no respect for them.
Anyways, I still stand by my firmly not caring about Mary-Kate. She’s not the only one with problems, there are people are worse off who’ve suffered from non-self-inflicted problems. As I said, she’ll get over it.
ThatGuy, you pretty much described my post. Sure some of you may think of my post as crass, and well it is, but I refuse to sugarcoat everything I say either online or in person. I call it as I see it, whether one disagrees with that is another topic.
I’m sure your sister’s glad to have such a supportive brother. I’m sure your insensitive ‘get over yourself’ attitude helped her get past it. Well, no, it most certainly didn’t. I don’t think sarcasm suits me, so I’ll say outright: That you’re able to put it in the past tense is a good thing, but your moronic attitude was just another hurdle she had to get past to do that. This isn’t about ‘sugar-coating’, this is about having a fucking clue what you’re talking about before you spout.
And, ThatGuy, that Mary-Kate is a multi-millionare doesn’t change that she’s a real person. It’s not a defense of doperdude’s post that he doesn’t understand that - it’s just extra proof that he’s abso-fucking-lutely clueless. The idea that her money changes anything about her disorder is the kind of moronic thought process response 1) was addressing.
There’s two different aspects of the money comment to address, actually.
First: Despite the Olsen Twins’ fortune, there is no functional difference between Mary-Kate Olsen, my friend, or Doperdude’s sister for the purposes of this discussion:
All three are young women, who for some reason, felt there was something wrong with them that could be fixed by not eating/eating but immediately throwing up. To say to any of them that ‘yes, there IS something wrong with you, you are unworthy of respect’ will do exactly NOTHING at best. More likely it will make the situation worse. It doesn’t matter if he’s saying it to Mary-Kate Olsen, to my friend, or to his sister, it’s the SAME DAMN THING.
Second: Saying ‘you DESERVE this because you’re rich’ is just a whole different type of idiocy. It’s schadenfreud at it’s most ridiculous - Mary-Kate Olsen never did anything to you, she just happened to be successful.
Doperdude? Clever. It’s one thing to disagree with my opinion, it’s entirely another to start calling names.
“Saying ‘you DESERVE this because you’re rich’ is just a whole different type of idiocy. It’s schadenfreud at it’s most ridiculous - Mary-Kate Olsen never did anything to you, she just happened to be successful.”
Oh, and I’d really appreciate it if you stopped putting words into my mouth. Just because i have no respect for her doesn’t mean I wish ill upon her. Geez, you are taking this way too personally. Especially since my original post didn’t even involve you.
Calm down.
That wasn’t namecalling, that was a mistake. For some reason I kept, until just now, parsing your name exactly as I typed it Doper(as in ‘one who reads/posts to the SDMB’)Dude. Sorry.
I’m also sorry for the language I used in that post. Although I stand by the comments, the profanity wasn’t called for.
So. Exactly how, then, does the fact that she has money in any way, shape, or form, make her eating disorder different than that of my friend or your sister?
It certainly didn’t make her immune to it, and it’s not going to help her get over it. So, if it doesn’t mean she deserves it, how is it at all relevant?
Where did I say I that, hmm?
All I stressed is that I’d gladly develop an eating disorder in exchange for some mad cash. You seem to be looking far deeper into this than intended.
When you agreed with ThatGuy that Mary-Kate was different than my friend for the purposes of this discussion because my friend isn’t a millionaire. Obviously, somehow, Mary-Kate having money makes her different than my friend, or your sister.
You know what? In light of your comments about people with the disorders, this actually makes perfect sense.
I’d held out some hope that, maybe, given even a second-hand experience with eating disorders, you’d have some understanding of it. Clearly this isn’t the case.
More out of curiosity than a belief that it might change your opinion - what other disorders would you be willing to take on for money?
Depression? Diabetes? In which other ways are you willing to harm your health and reduce your quality of life for a few bucks?
Why the hell do you care what I think? I obviously value money more than you do; what’s the problem? I couldn’t care less what you believe, and I’m sure you prefer it that way. So let’s let it be, eh?
Fine. I’m obviously not going to change your opinion. I’d hoped I could gain some understanding of it, though. While I FOLLOW your reasoning, I don’t understand it - I find it completely incomprehensible, in fact. But this is a distinct hijack, so…it might as well die, anyway.
You know, you can die from an eating disorder, or you can really mes sup your health. I mean seriously.
What you seem to be saying, Duderdude2, is that you wouldn’t mind dying or seriously messing up your health in exchange for cash. I mean maybe these things wouldn’t happen, but I think that there’s a pretty good chance that they would.
And it’s my understanding that you can really lose control of yourself with an eating disorder such that it is pretty much impossible to stop no matter how much you hurt yourself.
To me, in that light, it seems a tad mean to say what you said.
I’m just sayin’.
Just like Karen Carpenter did, right?
Not always.
Monozygotic twins can have separate placentas.
They can share the same amnion, chorion & placenta, OR they can have separate amnions but share a chorion and placenta, OR they can have altogether separate amions, chorions and placentas. It depends on when the fertilized egg splits.
Less than 1% of all twins share a placenta. ( http://medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/PLACHTML/PLAC101.html)
And to make things more confusing for doctors, the placentas of fraternal twins can fuse together, making them appear to share a single placenta.
I’ve had an eating disorder, and have suffered more than a few health problems later from it. There is no money in the world that can remedy the pain of feeling not good enough, or the agonies of recovery. None.