McCain just said that Iran is training Al Queda troops and sending them into Iraq. If Obama or Hillarity said that the papers and TV would be roasting them on a spit. Thundering stupidity and misunderstanding very quietly covered. Fox would have run it 24/7 if Obama said it.
It’s not so much a free pass. More of an AARP discount.
Which cannot be combined with the Early-Bird Special at the buffet restaurant, sorry.
But he has to go to bed early so he can be rested and alert for the 3am phone call.
All the news that fits. We can only take so many stories at one time and clearly the battle between Hilary and Obama and Eliot Spitzer sex, and March Madness, and Spring Break Killers, and ohhh shiny, and what were you asking about?
With all due respect to our local news teams…this is the San Francisco Bay Area, John. Of course they reported and harped on it. I’m not sure it’s representative of what’s reported in the local media in other parts of the country, and it certainly doesn’t mirror what I’ve seen on the national news which has pretty much been the HillarAma show. MSNBC and CNN and Meet the Press have barely noticed that Sen. McCain is still alive. He’s mentioned on the Daily Show more often than he was on Reliable Sources this week. Yes, he’s getting a pass on the national stage. It’s possible he’ll get one 'til August 25th.
Lest you think this is all O’s apples vs. McC’s oranges, let’s look at treatment of ministers who like Obama vs. ministers who like McCain. You’ve heard all about Barack and the (retired) Rev. Jeremiah Wright. You’ve heard that Black Muslim radical Minister Farrakhan endorsed Obama, and if you’ve dug deeper, you’ve heard that Obama denounced Farrakhan’s anti-semitic opinions
Have the news voices told you about Rev. Parsley, who McCain calls his spiritual advisor? He’s the one who believes the US was founded, in part, to destroy Islam. Then there’s Pastor John Hagee, whose endorsement McCain said he was “honored” to accept. Hagee says the Catholic church is “the great whore” and “a false cult.” He says Jews have “brought anti-semitism on themselves.” He also runs Christians United For Israel. CUFI lobbies congress for the preservation of Israel, because the Second Coming depends on it. He has urged the bombing of Iran in order to bring Armegeddon.
Have the voices in the news told you about that? Perhaps that’s a free pass.
So, if Obama repudiates those of Wright’s opinions that he finds offensive, that is not getting a free pass. Whereas, if McCain repudiates those of Hagee’s opinions that he finds offensive, that is getting a free pass.
McCain has mentioned that he sent two of his children to Catholic school. This seems to me a rather thorough repudiation of the anti-Catholic attitudes of Hagee. But Obama continued to attend and support the anti-white church headed by Wright, which is a bit more ambiguous.
If you are going to say “what more can he do to make it clear he doesn’t share those opinions”, then it seems McCain has done more than Obama.
A free pass? Well, they seemed to float a rumor some time back that McCain was conducting an affair with a lobbyist. It probably seems like a “free pass” on that because it was false all along.
I realize the SDMB would like the press to act like MoveOn.org 24/7, but calling any departure from that standard a “free pass” seems a little silly. But it is early days yet. You will probably have to wait until McCain pulls too close in the polls too close to the election for something like the Halperin memo of 2004 (or more forgeries about McCain’s military service or something) to be pushed by the MSM.
Regards,
Shodan
Bummer you don’t address the actual issue; whether he took lobby money from the woman he was supposedly shtupping. I don’t care of they were having an affair or not. But I’m very interested in whether or not a presidential candidate who vehemently denies giving favors to lobbyists showed preferential treatment to the telecommunications lobby for which she worked. That question seems to have been tossed out along with the affair accusation.
Well, unlike Obama, McCain did go begging for the preacher’s endorsement:
It seems kind of twisty to ask for a man’s help, and then repudiate the guy. Does McCain need support from the religious right so badly that he’s willing to take damaged goods? I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures, but is there any honor in the path McCain took here? He should explain that to us.
So they investigated it, found nothing, and it is giving him a free pass?
Like I said at the end of my earlier post, I realize the SDMB would like coverage of McCain 100% negative even when scandals are shown to be imaginary. Failure to do this is not giving anyone a free pass.
Like I said, wait until the general election gets going - no doubt you will get all the anti-McCain bullshit, true and untrue, a rabidly pro-Obama partisan could wish for.
I might almost wish for the MSM to get caught as blatantly as they did in 2004.
Regards,
Shodan
“They” investigated? “They” who? They get around, don’t they? I don’t recall any recent story about McCain being investigated for taking lobby money, other than a possible Abramoff link some years ago. I guess the “liberal media” were all sick that day. Do you by any chance have a link?
I don’t deny that McCain has been the victim of false accusations in prior elections; I thought what was done to him in 2000 was disgusting and reprehensible. But IMO, the question of giving preferential treatment to a telecommunications lobby has not been adequately addressed, and was viewed (wrongly) as less important than the accusation of sexual dalliance. It’s not unreasonable to expect a presidential candidate whose campaign works with more lobbyists than the other candidates combined yet insists he’s not influenced and does not give preferential treatment be questioned a bit closer on that issue.
Hagee has said far more offensive things than Wright. Wright didn’t even really say anything all that objectionable if you really look at it. The only thing he was wrong about was the AIDS thing, but that’s just paranoid, not offensive or racist.
“Anti-white”? Don’t do that again, OK? Just don’t.
Shodan, UCC is 99% white. That’s a very strange demographic for an “anti-white” church.
Also, I didn’t hear the Right Reverend Wright say anything anti-white. Cite?
But if he baits you over that way <------------ you won’t be looking over here --------> and then he succeeds. Same shit he’s been doing forever.
-Joe
Well, if anybody thinks I am doing anything against the rules, feel free to report it. If you got nothing else, well, I understand.
The mainstream media, who do you think?
Don’t exactly have your finger on the pulse of the nation, do you? Come on now - this is getting a little silly.
For someone with political opinions as strong as you got, you don’t seem to be too well up on how the press is giving McCain a free pass by running articles on the things you don’t like about him every few hours.
Regards,
Shodan
Apparently I read better than you. Just because they have the word “lobbyist” in them, does not automatically tie into the senator being investigated for lobby money. Half of them were about the most recent scandal. The other half were about his steadfast refusal to take money from lobbyists, but still retain relationships with them. There was actually one on the first page that was about accepting donations, but it was in the minority. Don’t be so lazy.
So basically, by “getting a free pass” you mean - well, nothing in particular beyond “I hate McCain”. You complain that they aren’t investigating McCain for accepting lobbyists’ money. Then you are shown a cite that they have done so, but that is not good enough because they didn’t find anything illegal.
I guess I’ll just repeat for the last time, that I fully realize that the SDMB would like the media to act as unpaid campaign volunteers for Obama, and simply manufacture scandal when they cannot find any. Failure to do so 24/7 is giving McCain “a free pass”.
So much for Obama and his new, fresh way of doing politics. So 2004.
Regards,
Shodan
Has anyone considered that these were not gaffes on McCain’s part but strategic lies designed to drum up support for a war with Iran?