Hey, you had the Steam price for Skyrim nailed! 
There’s also the level playing field argument, motion control, and better local multiplayer.
I had a look and yeah, looks like Kinthalis is right, you can find PC titles on new releases cheaper. I was going off Steam prices vs what’s advertised at my local shop. I rarely buy new releases. I usually wait and pay less than $20 AUD for Xbox games, and occasionally a lot less. Wii titles tend to be stupid expensive here, though. Quite rare that I can pick one of those up for less than $15.
I concede that if somebody wants 300 games they’re better off with a PC, just as I’ve always said that for a lot of genres, PC is the best. Must be nice having all that free time, jeez.
Bosstone, as I tried to get across before, a PC, especially a desktop, is not a requirement, even for word processing, and will become less and less so. If not for my gaming hobby we wouldn’t have recently bought a PC, much less the (admittedly lovely and not so very expensive, at least that’s what I tell myself) monitor to go with it. I could’ve got by with my work laptop if all I wanted to do was goof around online. Tablets, phones, and smart TVs will continue to compete with the PC for consumer dollars-- and consoles, too, of course.
I expect smart TVs will eventually directly compete with consoles and will probably also include productivity features like word processing. Kinda wonder why they don’t have the latter already. They already can stream video without a computer or console.
Did you have to go there? Look, your personal issues with time management are none of my business, no need to drag this discussion down by throwing veiled insults.
That library is from about a decade of gaming. It’s not like I picked up 300 games last year. And no, the savings benefit doesn’t start to kick in at 300 games, you’re not wining the argument by acting like that, no one is being fooled.
For the record, I would not own a television if I didn’t have a PS3. The TV is my conduit for Netflix, DVDs, video games, music, etc., but I don’t have cable.
I understand that I’m not the rule here, but it’s not at all uncommon anymore to hear of people who have Netflix (which requires either a game system or a specialized DVD player or some other unit with wifi [or a COMPUTER 
] but no actual cable.
Settle down, please. I don’t think you have a lot of room for complaint in light of the loaded language you’ve been using in this thread.
And I was sincere in my jealousy. Didn’t mean to hit any nerves.
It is nice to have time. It’s even nicer to have a huge catalog of games to fit any mood I happen to be in 
First person shooter? Sure! Hrm… run & gun? Stealth? Single player? Multiplayer? Serious or comic? Maybe a platformer? High skill, low skill? Which of the many various mechanics would I like? Fantasy RPG? Open world or linear? Maybe futuristic RPG instead? Modern era? Racing games? Should I play a straight up racing game or open-world car hijacking nonsense? Third person adventure? Superhero, quasi-historical, pure fantasy or futuristic? Do I want my parkour off Renaissance era Italian buildings or off of distopian futuristic buildings? Puzzle games? Physics puzzles, plot puzzles… man, too many there to even start listing them. Maybe strategy? World builder strategy? City builder strategy? War strategy? Is that big world war games or unit level war games or do I want to be in the thick of it swinging a sword while commanding my unit war games? So on and so forth. There’s no way I can feel bad about that.
Same here, I don’t have cable, and I wouldn’t have a TV if not for my XBox 360. But I also wouldn’t own an XBox 360 if it weren’t for the fact that I can watch Netflix streaming on my TV.
Loaded language against inanimate objects. How dare I?!
You didn’t hit any nerves, I’m just pointing out that it’s silly to try and get personal over GAMES.
I do. I don’t, however, play many AAA retail titles. I haven’t played Skyrim, Borderlands, CoD, whatever. I play funny little nichey titles off Steam…and LotRO. That’s about it. All my console playing is pretty niche too. There’s a ton of stuff on consoles that I just can’t get on PC, because I don’t give a rat’s ass about any of the multiplatform releasses.
That’s really MY argument, but I know better than to claim I’m the rule there.
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The PC download is $45, the PC game with box and crap is the same price as console versions. The other two titles list as the same price on the PC as consoles, but Amazon has chosen to discount them more. And if you want to buy these from various resellers on Amazon, a large portion of that price difference goes away. (Skyrim PS3 is $4 more than the PC today, and was the same price as the PC yesterday.)
I’m honestly surprised about the F1 and Fifa pricing, but those are titles I’ve never ever considered pricing out, so I guess ignorance has been fought. It’s super weird that they’re set at the same price by the manufacturer though.
…then maybe you need to stop being so over the top and defensive. There is a lot of overblown rhetoric in this thread but it isn’t coming from Dave.
Lol… ok, such as?
…try reading the thread. Dave’s point is quite simple: both PC and console gaming have their advantages and disadvantages and there is no inherent superiority of one system over the other.
Summed up in a single sentence: what is your point?
You claimed I was using “overblown rhetoric” whatever the heck that means. Can you provide an example?
I have a feeling “overblown rhetoric” is code for “thing I don’t like to hear”.
As to your over simplistic summation - because of price? That’s what it boils down to to most people her eon the console side. Sorry, but I just don’t agree that simply because something can be a bit more expensive it can’t also be superior. Seriously, if one thing can do what another thing does, only better, and can do a lot more… doesn’t that automatically mean it’s superior?
The smartest thing Microsoft did is essentially make their console into a PC. They brought over all the cool stuff happening on PC to the console and that’s a big reason why consoles are as popular as they are now.
Mods, please lock this thread. It’s abundantly clear that consoles have won. PC’s will be signing the treaty at Appomattox any time now. Damn you consoles!
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Overblown rhetoric.
There’s your example.
So I was right.
…nope: you are wrong. What is it exactly you are saying that I don’t want to hear? I haven’t played a game on a console for several years. I played a game on the PC last week. I would rather play games on the PC than the console.
You know my last post where I quoted you? What you wrote was overblown rhetoric. I think that my single sentence summation was a perfectly valid summary of what David has been saying in this thread.
What are you trying to say? What exactly is your point? And can you say it without creating strawmen about price, rattling off about Microsoft made their console a PC, and making claims about how things are somehow automatically superior?
It just occurred to me how boring a thread would be without “overblown rhetoric”, whatever that is.
“PCs and consoles have advantages and disadvantages!”
“Consoles are cheaper!”
“PCs offer more!”
“Okay!”
Yet consistently I see games being more expensive as digital downloads on release, which is just insane. I ended up buying Skyrim at a bricks and mortar store because it was 100 SEK cheaper than Steam. I just checked and Borderlands 2 is 399 SEK in that same store and yet 49.99 Euro (approx 430 SEK) on Steam.
There’s no excuse for that.
I seem to remember that the WoW expansion is ridiculously more expensive as a digital download too.
I just wanted to mention that I played some pc games tonight on my couch, in my living room, on my tv, with a controller. It was nice.