Exactly. Certain posters seem to think that she is factually a liar just because of the fact that Scott Brown called her a liar. That seems to be enough for proof of guilt to them I guess.
Blood is irrelevant. What did she hope to have in common with other native Americans? What was it about her background did she think she would share with them? “Hey, remember that relative that you never met that had high cheekbones? Me too!” End of conversation.
I’m really not sure what she hoped to accomplish by publicly announcing her heritage. Like I said, I realized as a teenager that my supposed native American heritage meant absolutely nothing to anybody, and I had the good sense to drop it before I offended anyone. As others in this thread have pointed it, not everyone has that good sense. Warren certainly didn’t. It just strikes me as a sign of cultural ignorance.
I’m not sure why I need to provide evidence that she got hired because of her claim, since I haven’t said anything of the sort.
My wife spent some time working for the Smithsonian as one of their liaisons for the native American tribes while the Smithsonian was building the Museum of the American Indian. She said that part of the reason so many people claim Cherokee membership is because traditionally the Cherokee tribe has been very liberal in who they allow to claim membership (versus tribes with strict blood percentage quotas). This often caused some eye-rolling among the other tribes but, ultimately, if the Cherokee nation wants to say someone 1/32nd or 1/64th or whatever counts as “Cherokee”, that’s their call and I don’t see who has reason to say that person doesn’t really count.
(I’m speaking generally, I have no idea what – if anything – Warren has ever done to establish Cherokee membership)
No, seriously. If I say you’re a child molester, how would you go about proving that you aren’t? What would be your defense against what I’ve said?
Who cares? If she’s interested, it’s her business and she doesn’t have to justify an interest. I do think it’s sort of amusing that she’s being criticized by different people for claiming NA heritage while having no involvement in the culture and also for attempting to get involved in the culture despite minimal heritage. 
Debaser did (not that he’s the first person to make it).
You might get a better response if you just make your point using the child molester as an analogy instead of trying to play Perry Mason.
Do you really not know the answer to this question?
If anyone is allowed to claim Cherokee heritage that waters down the legitimate heritage that the other tribes have meticulously been maintaining.
The result of this is having scores of Cherokee applicants with questionable or non existent claims to their heritage applying to Universities and for Government contracts and Casino licenses. This might prevent someone who is a real Lakota who was raised in Pine Ridge Reservation from getting those benefits.
ETA: Note that I’m not claiming that this is the case currently. But, I can certainly understand why other Native American groups would have these fears.
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](http://www.wcvb.com/news/politics/Scott-Brown-Eliabeth-Warren-faceoff-in-1st-debate-for-U-S-Senate-seat/-/9848766/16683432/-/r2puts/-/index.html)What else could “clearly” imply?
Warren’s from Oklahoma. Of course she has some Indian ancestry. Duh.
And no, you can’t tell by appearances. My wife is one-quarter Oklahoma Choctaw, for instance, and she and some of her sibs look as German as I do. Other sibs look pureblood.
Why are you asking me? Shouldn’t you be asking Debaser and Magellan01?
They are the ones claiming that she is a liar with nothing to back it up.
To answer your question though, I wouldn’t be able to defend myself if you didn’t offer any proof of your claim that I could attempt to disprove, could I?
But again, without any proof your claim should be ignored.
I appreciate your concern about my questioning style and welcome further insights that are utterly unrelated to the point. They add color, somehow.
I did. I admit there is no “smoking gun” documentation yet uncovered that they made the hiring decision based on the directory, but there is enough evidence to come to that conclusion.
Warren has refused to release her Harvard personnel records which would answer this question, which speaks volumes. Instead she points to statements made by those who made her hiring decision.
Here are some more details about the situation at Harvard when she was hired:
Warren was hired in 1992.
You’re right. It would be difficult. In fact, it would be completely impossible.
Oh, but I do have proof. It’s an old family story. I’d bring out a witness, but unfortunately the children all died (really tragic school bus accident).
Now, prove my family story is wrong. Can you?
I love that the entire crowd in that video breaks out into a “Yankee’s Suck” chant. You really can’t get more than a dozen Massholes into a group without that occurring, regardless of any other circumstances.
Who are you arguing with? You seem to be making a point that you can’t just accuse someone of something without any evidence (child molestation), which is exactly what I’m saying, but then you also seem to be disagreeing with me somehow in some confusing way. Can you just tell us what point you are making please? I honestly can’t tell exactly what you’re trying to say based on your … arguments so far.
If one has already decided what conclusion one wants, yes.
Since no one can tell what your point is, it’s hard to make sure our comments are related.
Actually I’m not making a point here, you’re making the point for me. Let’s back up and look at what you’ve said.
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Warren “accused” herself of having Native American heritage. Others have asserted it isn’t true, but since Warren never offered any proof of her claim, there’s no way the claim can be proven. So it’s her responsibility to prove what she said.
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But again, without any proof your claim should be ignored.
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So you’re saying that Warren’s claim… which, like mine, is based on an old family story… should be ignored?
Protip: when you have to type things like “accused” herself, you’ve lost the argument.
Actually, listening to it more closely, that is “Cherokees suck” being chanted.
Protip: when you have to preface your comment by ‘protip’, it’s just a half-assed opinion.