Is Shaun King (Daily Kos writer & Black Lives Matter activist) really white?

All I can say is that that’s how I interpreted some of what he was saying in this thread. I would’ve gone into more detail, but seeing as how he’s now banned, presumably for telling a mod to “go suck a dick,” I’m not sure that’s the best use of time anymore.

There is an update on this story.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/joshua-goldberg-the-fake-aussie-jihadist-had-a-hand-in-every-online-fight-20150913-gjlc30.html

Here is the archive of Goldberg initiating contact, but there is also a link to his blog with more if you really want to find it.

Joshua Goldberg is a helluva name for a Jihadi.

This Florida resident and Australian jihadi /white supremacist / anti-Semite / Gamergate misogynist / BLM investigator and smear artist / Social Justice warrior is self evidently a troll. Neighbors report that he rarely or never left his apartment.
I’m guessing that he is a sadist who takes pleasure in other’s suffering. I’m wondering whether he is missing a few neural modules. He is facing FBI charges now, so we might get a psychological profile out of this mess.

Ddamn, gotta admit that was some world-class trolling he did… how many times does a baby have to be kicked in the head by a mule to turn out like that?

The sad thing is the numbers of people who believed this guy, and a thread devoted to tearing an activist apart.

And that’s just HERE! This has been playing out over multiple blogs and message boards, with similar results.

Is it wrong that I really hope he gets thrown in with members of The Nation of Islam?

What I see is more scientific illiteracy, and not realizing that your claim does not in any way contradict theirs. It’s like they don’t know what it means when we say that race is not a biological concept.

They genuinely do not seem to see the difference in what you are saying and saying that race is biologically defined. They don’t get that what you are saying is in fact the exact opposite!

It’s laudable that you treated everyone as if they were on the same playing field on this subject, but, in this case, I think it only made things worse.

As for even sven, she fell into a trap I almost did. The simple fact that we as human beings tend to view things that are repeated often enough as true by default. They kept claiming you said those things, so we started to think you might have. Especially since they were very slight variations.

Fortunately, I had been reading the whole thread, and realized I would have noticed had you said those things. Instead, I found your posts to be illuminating, saying things I knew but hadn’t become clear in my mind.

Anyways, I’m glad for the update. It bumped the thread, so now I got to read that awesome article by the man himself. That was enough. Remember, Dolenzal had a high hurdle before being declared fake. Heck, a lot of us said that, had she not accused her parents of abuse, we probably would have been fine calling her black.

No High Hurdles for Shaun King, that man didn’t have to prove a thing. And yet we got to learn a lot about his life as a biracial man living in a very white America.
The only thing this exercise in racism proves, it’s that Shaun King’s work is not in vein.

I mean, apart from the fact that genetic analysis of humans “substantially supports the traditional racial groups classification”, race can be determined accurately for more than 99.8% of individuals, and that there exists a consensus that common sense racial categorizations reveal some usable information, you’re absolutely correct.

It’s important not to let the way of pesky facts get in the way of a comforting ideology.

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In the long run, the truth wins out.

To say that Arthur Jensen represents the scientific consensus is misleading, laughable in fact.

You can get a general sense of this literature by reviewing figure 1: the measured average gap between black and white test scores is dwarfed by the overall dispersion among individuals. If appearance had variance anything like that chart race wouldn’t be an issue as ancestry wouldn’t remotely be guessable via appearance.

Your argument is sadface.

I nearly laughed myself sick over this.

You’re using as your source a guy who was disciplined for going around a mall waving around questionnaires asking people to tell him how large their penises were when erect, how far they could ejaculate and similar questioned.

You think this nut with all his bizarre beliefs about the correlation between brain size and penis size is representative of the scientific consensus?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin’s_Fallacy

So sorry to the white supremacists that white supremacism is overwhelmingly rejected by the scientific community. So sorry to the white supremacists that white supremacism is overwhelmingly rejected by white Americans. Most white Americans have non-white people among those they count as friends and family, and thus most white Americans are going to reject such bigotry.

I’m sure it sucks to be a white supremacist (for these and many other reasons). You have my sympathy*.

*Note: you don’t have my sympathy.

Most White nationalists don’t consider white people superior, only different, and have non-white friends too. And your factual critique doesn’t even relate to the argument at hand – that Lewontin’s race denying claims are fallacious.

You’ve indicated pretty clearly in various posts that you consider white people superior. As to your claims about race, they are denied in your own links (the criticism in your wikipedia link) and others posted in response. Most white people in America are more closely genetically related to certain black Americans than various other far-flung “white” people in Europe and elsewhere. There are “black” populations in Africa that are far more closely related to Europeans and Asians than to various other far-flung “black” populations in other parts of Africa.

Are you a “White Nationalist” or do you just admire many of them?

Find some “white nationalists” who are not white supremacists. Let’s hear from them.

At least we know that the USA is not a white nation. It never has been. The original inhabitants were not white; despite all efforts to kill them off, quite a few remain. Some of the original white settlers brought black slaves–and they kept having them shipped in. And not all the immigrants have been white, despite discriminatory immigration policies.

So, where* do* you white nationalists live?