Yes. Even assuming that we should be in favor of prison violence, I think it’s pretty clear that Goldberg is mentally disturbed and ought to be in a psychiatric facility rather than a prison.
Randy Weaver (the Ruby Ridge) guy always took pains to point out that he was a white separatist rather than a white supremacist. He didn’t think other races were inferior, just that race-mixing was wrong. You can certainly question his sincerity, since he used to hang out at the Aryan Nations compound, but he still says that’s what he believed even though he’s now abandoned his white separatist beliefs.
Tons of white folks are in fact descendants of African people (among others), and most black Americans also have white ancestry. So there are lots of white people closer to some black people than to certain other white people and vice versa.
The United States was founded by White people on land that once belonged to other people. White people more-or-less exclusively shaped every facet of our government, and by extension, our country, for decades.
White nationalists live everywhere. We’re in your cities, your suburbs, and your colleges (and also in secret volcano lairs, because we’re really evil). We won’t stop our nefarious activities until the United States is a healthier, safer, and higher-trust place to live.
“Tons of White folks are in fact descendants of African people?” Yeah, a whole 3-4% of them.
Yes it is, when you don’t twist the data. Most people aren’t pure of any group, particularly in America. And there are plenty of populations in Africa, like the Igbo, that are closer genetically to non African groups than to certain other far flung African groups (like the San, for the Igbo).
Government, but not society. Non white people were integral to the development and evolution of American society in every phase and time.
And yet polling and popular opinion shows that most white Americans are repulsed by white nationalism and white supremacism. White America is really not into you.
As a person who lived in the area, and debated Richard Butler of the Aryan Nations in person dozens of times I can promise you that this “separate but equal” ruse was purely marketing and an attempt to “soften” their political views for mass consumption. I do not know what Randy Weavers beliefs were but the church was very much about white supremacy. Randy was just parroting the AN’s lines.
I don’t think those are AN lines. Butler was quoted publicly referring to Jews and blacks as subhuman, which makes it pretty hard for him to have argued that he just wanted to live apart from other races. Plus, you know, Sig Heil.
The AN was not a neo-nazi movement, it was part of the Christian Identity movement which is the belief that europeans are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. IIRC they believe that the Jews and other races are descendants of Cain. It is how they justify their white supremacy and antisemitism.
The Aryan Nations view was never popular for news media and they focused on the small Neo-Nazism segment which would attend their parades etc…but their claim that they were against race mixing was purely based around the belief that whites were gods chosen people. They would claim to not “hate” non-europeans, and that they were following gods will but it was just a thin thin veil covering traditional racism.
A cite from the Aryan Nations website, I have placed the link under a spoiler tag to reduce the number of hits they get. I lived in Coeur d’Alene Idaho at the time of ruby ridge, it was pure ugliness on all parties count and a shameful time in history for america but Randy Weaver and the whole CI movement was not innocuous or friendly to other races.
Yes, Richard Butler had direct connections to “The Order” and the World Congress had lots of connections to neo-nazi groups, but the “Church of Jesus Christ Christian” which Randy Weaver had connections to was “main streamed” to help grow the movement. They professed a tolerance (if you can call the doctrine in my previous post as tolerance) but separation from the other races which is a far more palatable idea to sell to new recruits like Weaver. And this is why he described his beliefs in this way.
Actually, non-Hispanic whites comprise about 62% of the population, and if we assume 96% of them are pure Europeans, that means a minimum 59.52% of the American population is of pure ancestry, a clear majority. So you’re wrong.
Moreover, the link provided clearly states that for no African people sampled were they more closely related to a non-African person than an African person. You’re wrong about that, too.
Most Americans reject white nationalism. Yet at the same time, implicit bias tests indicate that almost all Americans, including those who are explicitly anti-racist, have prejudiced preferences. Almost all Americans are racists. They just deny it.
Millions of white people, sure: about 9 million, as an upper estimate. But that’s not “tons of White folk”, like you claimed. It’s a very small amount, again around 3-4%. So you’re wrong again.
If there was an actual Anglo-American white ethnostate, a lot of people would leave. But there isn’t, because progressives have determined in their infinite universalism that every White country needs diversity.
I like how, in your mind, “Voted out of every representative democracy in the world,” is translated into, “Progressives won’t let it happen.” People won’t let it happen, because people, no matter where they live, find your politics repulsive.
How about the 54% of all “Hispanics” in the U.S. self-identify as white? (American FactFinder, 2007 American Community Survey, table B03002.)
Like any other “race” designation “Hispanic” is fully arbitrary, and on an official level the only thing that makes you hispanic is if you self-identify as such.
Science is not on your side, the fact that we can find a tiny number of differences that can map someone to some origin ignores the massive number of genetic material that is exactly the same. The claim above, that someone may be more closely related to someone from Africa as from Western Europe is still valid outside of extremely rare mutations that are for the most part genetically insignificant.