Of course. If they confirm that Cruz’s mother did not renounce her U.S. citizenship, then she is a dual-citizen and Ted Cruz is a natural-born citizen. So far all I’ve seen is ‘of course she was a dual-citizen’ – but without any citations.
This is just as ludicrous as the Obama birthers. Honestly, Johnny L.A., I don’t know what inspired you to post this. Cruz is the son of an American citizen. You have to prove otherwise. You can’t. This thread is absolutely pointless.
I’ll also note that the website you are using as your cite is demanding that Rubio and Jindal also drop from the race as they do not owe allegiance to the U.S.
In the case of Jindal, at least, India does not recognize dual citizenship, and Bobby Jindal is not a citizen of India.
This is just bullshit. Really, that’s all it is. I can’t believe that you’re buying it.
Can you show me where the constitution says raving loons are disqualified from the Presidency?
It was proved that Obama was born in the U.S. and is a natural-born U.S. citizen. If Cruz’s mother renounced her citizenship when she became Canadian, then Cruz was born outside of the U.S. to parents who were not citizens. Therefore, it is not ‘just as ludicrous’ as the Obama birthers. What you’re saying is that it doesn’t matter if Cruz is a citizen or not, because we assume his mother did not renounce her U.S. citizenship.
No, this is fucking bullshit. You have to prove that she did renounce her citizenship. There is no evidence that she did.
It is just exactly as ludicrous as the Obama birthers. Really, man, look at what you’re using for a cite!
But why would she have renounced her citizenship? I what way would it have benefited her to do so? Without evidence there is no reason to believe she did.
The cite doesn’t say whether she did or didn’t renounce her citizenship. There is no cite as to whether she did or didn’t renounce her citizenship. Cruz, nor the State Department, have not provided any evidence that she didn’t.
And it’s not ‘exactly as ludicrous as the Obama birthers’. Obama provided all legal, necessary documentation that Obama was born in Hawaii. Cruz has not provided any evidence his mother was a dual-citizen.
To make it clear: Obama proved he’s a natural-born citizen. Cruz has not. When you come up with a reliable cite that Cruz’s mother did not renounce her citizenship, then I will agree that Cruz is a natural-born American. Until that proof is provided, he may or may not be.
The question is not why a person would renounce citizenship; it’s whether Cruz’s mother did.
And since there is no evidence that she did we are forced to assume she did not.
Maybe you could start a rumor that Ted Cruz was actually adopted in Canada. This might be more believable and gain a little traction.
I’d think one reason to renounce U.S. citizenship would be to avoid paying income tax to the U.S. which is one of the few (only?) countries that tax non-residential citizens. I’m not saying she did, just answering the question with a plausible reason.
That’s not really plausible for Canadians, because of the tax treaty: true, there’s the hassle of filing US taxes, but unless she was earning at a very high level, she would owe no additional US taxes because Canadian taxes are higher.
Previous threads on topic:
From http://www.americanlaw.com/ina349.html
I do not see where there is a requirement for a person to renounce citizenship, (points 5 and 6 of the 7 points in the linked article), if the simple act of being naturalized to another state accomplishes the same thing.
I have not found explicit rules on holding dual citizenship. The only examples of which I am aware, (which I will not presume are exhaustive), have been cases where a person is born to parents of different nationalities and is allowed to choose one or both. There are a few countries with “right of return” laws that seem to permit a U.S. citizen to accept a dual nationality without an actual naturalization process, but I do not know the laws in regard to those cases.
I realize this is a parody thread, so let me provide the parody riposte.
Johnny L.A., do you have proof that your mother did not renounce her American citizenship?
Do we have any proof that you didn’t?
Can I prove that I didn’t?
Why is there air?
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It doesn’t. You have to do it “with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality.” The Supreme Court has ruled that unless that intention is made explicit, naturalization in another country does not impact US citizenship.
There are none in the US. You’re either a US citizen or you aren’t. Any other citizenship you hold is between you and that country, and the US won’t make you get rid of it or treat you as a citizen of that country. I believe that’s how it works in Canada too.
(Sometimes people see that the US “doesn’t recognize dual citizenship” and think that it means that it’s not allowed, when really it means the exact opposite.)
Could a person born of parents from two different countries but born in a third have triple citizenship?
Texas Tribune: [INDENT]Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware and later moved to Houston. She graduated from Rice University in 1956. By virtue of being born in the United States, she is a citizen. Because she spent most of her life before Ted Cruz was born in the U.S., he also qualified as U.S. citizen at birth. [/INDENT] Link in original column.
Rice University reports that she is an alum, and I would think that establishes at least some tie to the US, assuming it wasn’t a a body double that graduated in 1956.
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