Is That TB Guy The Biggest Asshole Ever, Or What?

There is a difference between latent TB and active TB. A good friend of mine was just told he has latent TB, which is dormant and he is not under any restrictions at all. He is not showing any symptoms nor is he contagious at this time. However, if at some time his immune system is compromised he could in theory develop active TB.

Active TB is contagious. A co-worker of mine had TB a few years ago and infected 2 others in my office just from sharing office space with them. I also used to work in a nursing home while I was in high school and I saw a wave of TB make its way through there, the elderly are more susceptible to it, especially living in close quarters. We had to get tested for it every 6 months as long as we were employed there. I have never tested positive as an adult though even after possible exposure.

Here’s a cite about latent vs. active TB.:
http://www.cdc.gov/tb/faqs/qa_introduction.htm

“However, not everyone infected with TB bacteria becomes sick. People who are not sick have what is called latent TB infection. People who have latent TB infection do not feel sick, do not have any symptoms, and cannot spread TB to others. But, some people with latent TB infection go on to get TB disease.”

You made the claim, so you are the one who needs to back it up. For clarification “My husband told me so” is not a cite.

Don’t worry, I won’t hold my breath.

in case this wasn’t addressed earlier - hope you’ve researched the legality of this w/in your jurisdiction and the jurisdiction of the people you’re talking to. Different places have different laws (in some places both parties must be aware of being taped).

Like there’s really scientific research done to demonstrate that PI lawyers are the lowest rung in the legal profession…

My husband graduated from Stanford Law at the top of this class and not a single person in his class went into PI work. Why not you ask? Because there is a negative stigma attached to PI work in the legal profession. Every profession has its “lowest rung.” I think my husband is a reliable knowledge source considering he is a lawyer working in a respected field and has been practicing law for some time now.

I don’t expect people not in the legal profession to understand so quit nitpicking something you aren’t knowledgeable about and get back to defending your best friend.

You have admitted 2 things:

  1. You do not work in the legal field.
  2. Your claim is absolutely baseless.

Now that we have established that, I think its safe to say that you have zero credibility. So, you know someone who is a layer. I happen to be sitting next to several. They all say your husband is full of shit.

So, I imagine, would the last Democratic Vice Presidential candidate.

“Somebody who’s not my husband told me” is no better cite.

No shit. That’s why I’m not making ridiculous claims. I do not need a cite.

Yes. However, I didn’t seem to see the part where it said he GRADUATED from said Academy. When most people talk about, say, the college they went to, they never say “I was accepted into Harvard.” They say “I graduated from Harvard.”

Unless, of course, you DON’T graduate. Then “accepted” becomes your biggest accomplishment there, which means you either quit or were booted out. Neither one says anything for his intelligence and ability.

No, but you’re ignoring the fact that these statements about his so-called definitively non-contagious status are coming only AFTER he’s been in quarantine and under doctors’ constant care for a few days.

This information was NOT known before this guy left on his trip, so to say there was no issue with this guy ducking the no-fly list is ridiculous.

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Yes. However, I didn’t seem to see the part where it said he GRADUATED from said Academy. When most people talk about, say, the college they went to, they never say “I was accepted into Harvard.” They say “I graduated from Harvard.”

Unless, of course, you DON’T graduate. Then “accepted” becomes your biggest accomplishment there, which means you either quit or were booted out. Neither one says anything for his intelligence and ability.[/QOUTE]

Nobody is claiming that it isn;t more impressive to graduate from a military academy. I was simply pointing out indications that the guy is pretty bright. It is damn hard to into a service academy.

He was tested multiple times prior to leaving. His status has not changed from then to now. I would say that means the information was known before he left.

Sorry, I’ll clean that up a bit. Second try:

Nobody is claiming that it isn’t more impressive to graduate from a military academy. I was simply pointing out indications that the guy is pretty bright. It is damn hard to get into a service academy.

He was tested multiple times prior to leaving. His status has not changed from then to now. I would say that means the information was known before he left.

Not really. All you need to do is meet general college admission guidelines (IE, have grades and SATs/ACTs good enough to get into college in the first place - the Naval Academy has no official minimum required scores), meet the physical fitness requirements, and then secure a nomination from some Congressman somewhere.

It’s a HECK of a lot harder to graduate than it is to simply get in.

No, his status has changed. Before he left, they didn’t even know whether he had the drug-resistant strain of TB or not in the first place!

That has nothing to do with the degree to which he was contagious. Your statement is irrelevant. They absolutely know how contagious he was, and most articles that have been written have addressed that fact.

But they didn’t know when he was jetting about. That’s risky.

Again, nobody is arguing that. I’m not sure why you keep saying it.

However, according to usna.edu, the average SAT score for the incoming freshman class at the USNA is right at 1300, and the average GPA is 3.5.

You mean, they knew right before & right after, but not during?

Yes, they know now. The point is, they didn’t know then, and by extension, TB dude didn’t know either. So, at the time he was flying around Europe, and then evading the no-fly list to escape to Canada from Italy, he had NO IDEA if he would be infecting people with his potentially-fatal strain of TB.

The CDC doctors had no idea, either (unless you think they told him to turn himself in to Italian medical authorities, instructed him to stay put until non-public transportation could be arranged, and placed his name on a no-fly list just because they were all big fans of Punk’d and thought it would be funny).

What makes you think they knew how contagious he was before, when his test results didn’t come back until he was already gone?

Average, meaning some Academy midshipmen have higher scores, and some have lower. My own SAT was 1290, and my high school GPA was 3.4, and I’m sure as hell not brighter than the average bear.

They were testing for strain, not communicability. There is a rather large difference. They had already run tests to see how contagious he was, several times, prior to his departure.

69% had Verbal scores higher than 600 & 84% had Math scores higher than 600.