Sure, but to get HIV or another STI from you, I’m pretty certain I’d know you were having sex with me on the airplane, and routes of transmission would require a certain proximity, as opposed to you breathing, coughing, etc. into my enclosed airspace.
TB and HIV are very different in terms of transmission, yet when I wrote my dissertation I easily found many contemporary writers and politicians who advocated for quarantine, tattoos, etc. for HIV+ people. It is very easy to avoid exposure to HIV. It is very hard to avoid exposure to TB. I worry that reasonable reactions to TB (like quarantine) may get over-generalized in unreasonable ways to HIV.
I had a positive TB test in 1987. I was asymptomatic. I was told to stay at home except for visits to the TB clinic, get somebody else to do my grocery shopping, and wasn’t allowed to go to work until I had a doctor’s note demonstrating initial treatment compliance and no signs of active disease. This was before the drug-resistant mutations, and if I got that kind of medical order on the basis of run-of-the-mill TB, I can’t imagine that 20 years later this guy got less explicit advice whether or not he was known to have a drug-resistant strain.
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Quiddity, why do you have so much difficulty in conversing with others?
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She’s very very intelligent. She’s having trouble dumbing down her conversation in order to deal with us.
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And then there’s you, hysterical and mewling over a message board thread.
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And thus is it demonstrated that there is no subject that a sufficiently motivated attention whore cannot drag into the gravity well of her own self-absorption.
She enjoys the attention, people. Stop feeding her.
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Quiddity, why do you have so much difficulty in conversing with others?
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It’s because she won’t be boxed in by your hive mind “rules”, that’s why.
Or maybe she’s actually a character in a Mallard Fillmore comic. I mean, who else can combine rudeness, condescension and martyrdom so effectively?
<ongoing conversation>
QG: :rolleyes: (sneers at thread for being an illogical and hysterical frenzy by people who can’t think for themselves)
poster1: (rudely tells QG to go away)
QG: :rolleyes: (sneers at poster1 for stooping to insults)
<argument with QG ensues>
QG: It’s sad that I’m being persecuted by the majority for daring to express a contrary opinion.
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<snip>
I can understand being freaked out. He said repeatedly that he felt abandoned. I think he really did believe he had to get to Denver, Colorado ASAP or he would die.
…
When the interviewer asked him about a passenger who’s already been identified, he said he was sorry for her, but look at him – he couldn’t even kiss his wife!
Maybe he’ll realize the consequences of what he did, maybe he won’t. Right now, I think he’s a scared man who’s only trying to stave off what he sees as certain death. What’s sad is I don’t think it’s hit home to him that he’s put others in the same position. <snip>
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I think everything he said in the Good Morning America interview was designed to set him up to sue CDC or anybody else he can blame for whatever he can grasp at . He kept repeating the “abandonment” phrase. I think he purposefully mentioned the not kissing my wife thing for sympathy. He had FIL record a conversaton with the doctor. He is SOOOO trying to cover his ass.
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<snip> You may note someday if you manage to read what I’m actually writing that I often attempt to make the point that people get far too overwrought about things that are not that serious or worthy of outrage. This is one of those things.
More and more I think that ‘Recreational Outrage’ is a very apt phrase; it seems some folks get their jollies by working up a nice big head of steam over pretty much anything. I guess it’s an adrenaline high or something. Just seems a pointless waste of time to me.
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That isn’t your place to say, nor your call to make. Why don’t you respect how others let off steam? Would you rather they retain it, and let it build pressure? I myself, laud the safety valve that is the Pit. You, however are a clueless one trick pony.
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but if he had been given the assurance that he was not a risk to others, I can see him opting to at least make the first leg of his journey.
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Yeah. And if he really was given that assurance by the authorities, then the authorities should have promptly arranged for transportation home for him. Instead, he was apparently left in the lurch.
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Yeah. And if he really was given that assurance by the authorities, then the authorities should have promptly arranged for transportation home for him. Instead, he was apparently left in the lurch.
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Actually, the CDC was calling him back to let him know they had got a jet for him, only to find he had left. I read it last night, in one of the articles linked here. I will see if I can find it again.
ETA: That is, if it still exists. One link already takes me to a newer story. hmph Stupid news stations, updating stories and not showing it, or vanishing them altogether only a day later…
[QUOTE=Muffin]
Quiddity, why do you have so much difficulty in conversing with others?
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It’s obvious by now she’s not interested in conversation. She’s only interested in eliciting negative attention so that she can feel superior to everyone else. Pathetic, really.
Ignoring her is the best way to deal with her. I’m sure once we inform the hive mind of this decision, everyone will immediatley comply.
[QUOTE=Zabali_Clawbane] Here, in a link from the OP.
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What exactly was done in the way of “preparing to send the CDC plane to Europe”? Sounds to me like they told the guy to go to hell and are now trying to cover their own asses.
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What exactly was done in the way of “preparing to send the CDC plane to Europe”? Sounds to me like they told the guy to go to hell and are now trying to cover their own asses.
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Refer to post 153, particularily the text which is bolded/dark red/a larger size. ETA: You realize, the fellow probably didn’t even give the CDC time to make arrangements, and now is trying to play the “abandoned” card, right? You’re falling for it. It takes time to arrange something like that, and that guy was more than smart enough to know this.
He says that he was told there was no money to bring him back. The CDC’s response was (apparently) “We don’t think that’s an accurate description.” To me that means that they basically agree with his story, but don’t want to come out and admit it.
It would be different if the CDC had said “Sit tight, the plane will be there for you in 24 hours.” But it doesn’t sound like that’s what happened. And CDC isn’t even claiming that’s what happened.
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So as far as I can tell is:
They tolkd him he could travel to Europe, but they would prefer he didn’t. Possibly they even told him that he wasn’t contagious.
While in Europe the CDC calls him and tells him he has TurboTB and to NOT get on a plane for the US.
TB Guy asks if the CDC is going to get him home somehow, CDC says “No.”
Dude,not wanting to be stuck in Europe (not smart) dcided to get home on his own.
CDC, after telling him that they weren’t coming to get him, figure out a way to do it, but only after it is too late.
There is a lot of “He said, she said” in this story and my guess is that both sides created this FUBAR.
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I agree, except for the last bit . . . “we were preparing” sounds like BS to me. It’s easy enough to make a claim like that after the fact. “If only you had waited a little longer . . . .” is usually a lie.
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There is a lot of “He said, she said” in this story and my guess is that both sides created this FUBAR.
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Although I haven’t done a lot of research on the story, that’s the way I saw it as well. Blaming one side without knowing what happened on both sides seems a little unfair.
That still does not excuse his flights back to the USA! Italy is not a third world country, as has been pointed out. They could have treated him. The US Embassy might have been able to facilitate a way to get him home, too. He knew he was breaking the law, this is proven by the fact that he flew to CANADA, then drove into the US, because he knew he was on the “no fly” list. He’s an asshat!
