It’s un-dead.
Exactly. I like all those bands, but I have never listened to nor had any desire to listen to ICP. Listening to the Bauhaus/Love and Rockets/Tones On Tail channels on Pandora is like being in college again. I like the music but there really wasn’t a “scene” or anything associated with it for me (especially living in Alabama.) The most goth piece of clothing I have ever owned is a Bauhaus T-shirt.
Heh. The circle of psychological life: Young humans do feel that need to shock the older ones, but that takes a constantly-evolving set of looks/heroes/music/etc. The shock goes away so quickly (and the adherents age just as quickly).
Goth is dead.
Nietzsche
Yep, still true. Just saw VNV on the 5th (they were great, btw!) and yeah, there were quite a few people in their 40s and older on hand. There was even a mid-40s mom and dad with their son who was about 10. They sat near us (we had dinner seats, so we actually got to sit down–we’re a bit old for the mosh-pit standing room only stuff) and seemed to have a great time.
Undead. Undead. Undead.
The bats have left the belltower.
It will never die/un-die - it’s just somewhat less visible. As someone above mentioned, as long as their are liberal arts majors, there will be goths (if walking by any art school in Chicago is a guide, or driving past Exit on North Avenue). Most likely, people under the umbrella with assign themselves to some splinter group (scene, etc).
Nope. I think ICP is pretty much the epitome of that concept. I bought one of their CDs many years ago. I ended up throwing it in the trash. It was that bad.
Same here, my experience would have been early-to-mid 90s. You can add the Mission and Fields of Nephalim in there, too. ICP were only barely starting at that time, but they don’t at all seem to be the type of band/music/scene that would resonate with the goth-types that I knew. There was some crossover with industrial music like Ministry and Nine Inch Nails, perhaps some darker new wave like Depeche Mode, certain types of metal, that sort of thing.
Isn’t “Alternatively Animated” more PC? 
+1
Which reminds me…
When I lived in London in the mid-90s, I used to go to The Limelight on Shaftesbury Avenue. Wednesday nights (IIRC) were dedicated 80s music. They played the hits from that era in the main room and that was fun enough but the most interesting stuff was in the basement. Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Einstürzende Neubauten, Bauhaus, Joy Division and some EBM. Probably Throbbing Gristle and Coil, too (my memories are hazy).
And the people were quite a sight. I used to find the girls absolutely gorgeous 
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Why thank you :o [1]
As for the OP, goth is alive and thriving in Whitby
[1] Okay, I was there twice in that time period 
The difference being?
::d&r::
Both think the world is a dark, desolate place. Good Goth doesn’t care how you feel about it, as long as you agree; Emo’s only interested in it so you can both whine about it.
It’s not immediately obvious, but I swear there’s a big gulf between the content of Bauhaus and Rites of Spring, for example.
And both take third place in the whiny olympics to James and Placebo.
You’re welcome ;).
I was there almost every week but for a very short period of time: October '94 - February '95. Loved the place, though.
There was another club that played the same sort of music (and where you could see exactly the same crowd). That was in Soho, I think.
Every time there’s a goth thread, I suggest that people read this article from Details magazine back in the 90s. They got together a bunch of the early goth icons (Siouxsie Sioux, Robert Smith, Peter Murphy, Daniel Ash) and discussed the genre.
The emo scene is long gone in my neck of the woods. Pretty much, they’ve been absorbed into the hipster crowd.