If ‘nature’ judges, you might want to read up on the “Just World” hypothesis.
Maybe read this.
You’re basically trying to explain why the LOA is not falsifiable, but it is. Employ the law, for your whole life, and at the end, see if it worked. Be your own experiment. If it appears to have worked, you won’t care, because you’ll have what you wanted, and you’ll probably realize that you got what you wanted through diligence and hard work, not woo. If it didn’t work, you won’t care, because you’ll be soon to die penniless and unfulfilled. But at least you’ll know.
And I want to know why nature should care that I want a BMW.
So how is it a “Law” then? Of course, if I’m interested in something, establish a goal, and then set about moving toward that goal, removing impediments and roadblocks along the way, then yeah, I’ll be successful. More successful than if I had just wished for it really hard without actually doing anything, anyway.
But that doesn’t really establish a law of anything- it just points out that determined and directed action toward a clear goal is an effective way to accomplish said goal.
All that stuff you mention- actively socializing, enhancing charisma, introducing myself, dressing appropriately, and putting myself in positions to meet women would be that directed action toward accomplishing the goal. There’s no interpersonal law that says that if I do that, then I’ll be successful, but rather they’re all things that’ll increase your interaction with women, enhance your confidence, etc… in a virtuous circle.
Sounds like this “Law of Attraction” stuff is just a woo-ish self-help method for getting people to systematically set goals and implement a plan to achieve them.
It’s woo crap right alongside the Just World hypothesis.
If you’re a negative person, you won’t buy a lottery ticket or make a bet on the football game, because you’d assume you’ll lose. That’s the point.
It’s like the old Wayne Gretzky quote: “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.”
If someone buys you a lottery ticket, nothing you say or feel will change the odds-neither positive or negative attitude with change the outcome.
Generally people don’t buy negative people stuff, but that’s another story.
Yes But the “law” is also so I’ve read, scientifically backed up by the rising theory that mind dictates matter, consciousness command matter. It is about self help but its got a greater depth to the concept. I suppose we all need to do research into the quantum physics and vibration, frequency concepts to understand how on earth do thoughts shape matter and the environment around us. From the limited research that I have done, it is quite fascinating to note that a human body does possess a magnetic polarity and that is considered the “frequency that we produce” that radiates outwards and “shapes” our environment. Taking this literally and forcing it into a linear way of understanding would only serve the purpose to ridicule theories that are new and may threaten our pre-existing comfortable theories, so for me, I would like to keep an open mind and just see it as fascinating and sometimes out of mere curiosity, try it a little because there really is no harm in it, as you’ve stated, having an active role in your purpose seems to be the key point here. How willing you are to go the extra mile and do the research is up to you.
Men who do support the mind over matter concept that I have come across is Greg Braden and Bruce Lipton. You may want to watch a few videos of their “evidence” of the theory. Remember that great minds in the history of humanity proposed concepts that were rejected by society because they were alien. We can only develop curiosity to give a slight benefit of the doubt. Humans have a history of taking over decades to appreciate the profoundness of some concepts and discoveries.
I think we may have differing opinions on what the word “scientifically” means.
@ Dr Fidelius
That is quite a condescending tone you have there o.o
The intent behind emoto’s work is the intent of the “positive and negative” phrases. Under the belief that humans emit frequency and a magnetic field invisible to the naked eye, And the impact of these “forces” is determined by feelings and conscious thoughts
I feel that his work is severely misinterpreted because it is forced into this scientific clothing that is deemed as the best way to assert truth. You get so caught up on how he did it and forget why he did it. Both are equally important, I am not undermining one but I feel that your tone sounds like such a dichotomy way of thinking, 2 dimensional, snobby. And we forget that it is people with those qualities that impedes progress and discovery, based on behaviours of bias and ridicule. Yes, follow protocols, but if anything the scientific community can become so comfortable and feel so self important about themselves that they defeat their purpose. Science, from Latin is scientia, meaning knowledge. Knowledge is knowledge. Don’t judge knowledge by how many people that supports it.
Trust me, you are the last person in this thread who should be lecturing anybody on science, since you’ve displayed nothing but a shocking lack of understanding of how it works.
Please explain to me why upbeat, positive people get cancer.
As opposed to all those frequencies and magnetic fields we can see with the naked eye?
There are no frequencies or magnetic fields emitted by the human body that can do any work, and they certainly can not be controlled by the brain. The only thing being misinterpreted is that this “study” itself being an example of anything. It and anything else claiming to verify LOA is either stupidity in action or outright fraud.
I judge knowledge by how much it can be repeated and verified. This money grubbing bullshit can neither be repeated or verified.
These boards are dedicated to fighting ignorance, you are spreading it. Stop believing in woo and bring some pie when you return.
Because they wanted to?
Or possibly because God hates them.
Science is the ONLY way to assess truth about the physical world.
No they’re not! Reproducible results are the only thing that matters. You clearly have no idea of how the world actually works. Magical thinking plays no role in the operation of the physical universe, to suggest otherwise is ignorance.
Yes. I am aloof and condescending. I have an annual review telling me that from a few years back.
My personal failings aside, is Mr Emoto cherry-picking the pretty pictures of ice crystals or is he not? One is, as I said, an art project (and there is nothing wrong with doing an art project) and the other is testable to give us an insight into how the world actually works.
How could you possibly claim a single system of thinking is the only way to reach truth, when we have been proven over and over again that no single system works, no constitution, no religion, no culture, nothing can be dynamic enough to keep up with this static cosmos that unfolds before us. With that attitude, claiming that science is the best, is just evidence of self glorification and ignorance and builds boundaries to discoveries of more knowledge. You are so solid about the idea that science is it all that you prohibit your own progression.
I am saying, I keep an open mind, I do not discriminate information, information is information and what people choose to do with it is their decision. I’m no the one asserting anything, I am merely presenting opinions and ideas which are subjective, that I admit to.
The statement you Make that results should be reproducible is … Strange. We know that change is the only constant in this world, and the closest thing to solid truth that we are aware of.
You’re doing what is recognized as dichotomy way of thinking, that if someone is not with you, they are against you, without realizing that this entire world is not based on black and white thinking, of face value, and the biggest point is we are hardly ever certain about anything and all we can do is bounce ideas around and try to come close to the truth but also being mindful that more information will emerge.
You call what you don’t understand as “magical thinking”, you haven’t even tried to see things from different angles and perspective and try to get the birds eye view.
I never said I believe in anything indefinitely, I allow my understanding to change constantly, and that is my form of adapting to this universe, instead of sticking to whatever regime that seems comfortable and correct. I’m not responsible for your bias and apathy.
Your ad hominem assertion defeats the purpose of “fighting ignorance” which is heavy with anger and a negative attitude. Fighting ignorance is being open to information and willing to let go your beliefs and having the courage to admit that you are wrong. I admit I may be wrong, there is not a single moment where I say my information is adamant and divine and nothing can be refuted about it. I merely say:
this is information I came across, what do you think?
This is interesting. Did you know about this information?
This is another way that you can look at the situation. Let’s look at it at a different angle. Let’s see other perspectives.
And the purpose of discussing is not necessarily to find the yes or no answer to the question but to promote healthy and respectful exchange of ideas and information and in our quiet minds, we decide what we want to believe or we decide to wait for more information to emerge. we are merely informing one another. We are not looking to make each other “choose the right road”
If it is about verbally beating people to adopt your ideas, that is no different to physical punishment in an attempt to change and modify behavior. I do not understand where this aggression comes from.