Same and I’m not sure how many people have even heard of that.
I imagine fairly few actually read enough to have any idea who these women are (and how incredibly horrifying and repugnant the gamers’ behavior was).
As someone who didn’t know any of the personalities going in, I found it fairly hard going to understand what the hell was going on, though admittedly it was easy to understand that a bunch of cretins were being vicious on the internet.
Either one–it’s your argument. I’m suggesting that none of the hiphop songs you’ve cited are within an order of magnitude–possibly within two orders of magnitude–of popularity of Blurred Lines. If you want to compare cultural criticism of the two, and not be comparing apples to watermelons, you need to give us a single example that’s similarly popular to Blurred Lines, using an appropriate measure of popularity. I don’t care whether it’s Rick Ross or Lil Wayne or Bill Cosby, you choose the black entertainer we’re supposed to be looking at and explain why you think they’re similar.
Social justice is just a euphemism for the distinctly less-friendly phrase “anything that is white male christian and hetero is fucking evil.”
If you have to bone to pick on a particular issue, specify what the fuck you’re talking about. “Social justice” is what lazy College Democrats say to feel like they’re helping to change the world. Obama loves to use the phrase; does he even have a concrete notion of what it means, or is it just fodder for the PC left?
As far as the OP is concerned, the topic at hand is the subtle racism of low expectations. Put simply: the media (and by extension, Americans as a whole) do not hold black artists to the same standards as white ones. Black artists, to their detriment, do not hold other black artists to the same standards either.
Uh, do you know what a euphemism is? Because nobody on earth uses the phrase that way except for people who’d like to continue bigoted behaviors and prop up bigoted institutions. It’s a blitheringly stupid interpretation of the phrase, not remotely euphemistic.
As for this, if you’d taken a moment to read the thread past the OP, you wouldn’t have embarrassed yourself by typing it. The OP at least had the excuse that there hadn’t been 40+ posts demonstrating the incorrectness of the premise when he posted it. Put simply, everything you say after “put simply” is factually incorrect.
Though the term originated as an epithet, it’s been appropriated by its targets, and now enough people self-identify as SJWs for badges to exist. (And, you’ll see on clicking the link, badges for Social Justice Mages, Social Justice Rogues, Social Justice Clerics, and so on.
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Most people consider themselves to be fighting for what is right, just and good. Regardless of whether their side actually is right or not.
While this is true, it’s not especially relevant, I think. “Social justice” tends to refer to an emphasis on changing social structures and norms in order to achieve justice. Plenty of people are suspicious of such efforts in general, thinking that justice is in general best achieved on a case-by-case basis and that widespread social change is both unnecessary and dangerous.
I think another reason the “Social Justice” folks don’t go after rap artists is because they see it as punching down. i.e. It’s okay to criticize the privileged (white cis-gendered males) because you’re punching up but when you’re criticizing those who have no privilege (most everyone else I guess) it’s seen as punching down.
And as at least one other person mentioned it’s probably because a lot of those rap songs really don’t have the popularity of something like “Blurred Lines.”
I don’t think you’re thinking of the same Taylor Swift as everyone else.
If Taylor Swift had that as an album cut or even only at live shows the gossip shows and internet would instantly be trying to figure out who on the ‘long list of ex-lovers’ that applied to.
Incidentally, while it might make you feel good to make this claim, it’s a bit hard to know what to make of it. I only know you from your words here, and while you claim to “believe in” social justice, the entirety of your words on this board consist of making a weird and poorly-supported attack on the vaguely-identified “social justice movement.” To the extent that we’re going to consider the source of the attack, it hardly lends credibility to your charge. If you want people to take you seriously when you say you “believe in social justice,” it’d be helpful to see some demonstration of that.
The term “social justice” itself is a reasonable term used to indicate the need for the amelioration of socioeconomic problems. However, the term has been seized by a certain movement of Internet-based fanatics who represent all the worst strands of the New Left (and I say this as someone on the centre-left) such as hatred of Western Civilization, Afrocentrism, kneejerk anti-capitalism, radical feminism, misandry, obsession with cultural trivialities, identifying everything as manifestations of “white supremacy”, moonbattery pseudoscience, and so forth. Nor is this merely strawmanning-I’ve seen quite a few people online who manifest this tendency to some degree. They do little that is useful but give excellent fodder for mockery by rightists (quite a few pages I follow on Facebook are of this nature) and alienate a whole bunch of sensible people especially when this SJW nonsense is tied in with the mainstream of the Democratic Party.
I was being more facetious than anything, but my point was that despite the fact that it would start a bunch of intense curiosity, it would likely not damage her public image much, unless the song was played on the radio.
I’m slightly less concerned about the way that rappers of various races are treated when their lyrics mention rape, and slightly more concerned about the way people are treated when they commit rape. In the English city of Rotherham, the government ignored 1,400 cases of rape, apparently because the victims were white and the rapists mainly Pakistani. Leftist narratives demand that whites be villains and non-whites victims. When the facts don’t fit the narrative, facts get ignored. It’s now causing enormous suffering, beyond just criticism of rap lyrics.
It’s fascinating how despite the OPs premise having been proven false*, various concerned citizens ignore this to air similar and just as poorly thought out grievances.
*other than in the uninteresting interpretation that everyone who speaks out about anything bad should be obliged to speak out about everything bad.
Honestly at this point I’m only genuinely surprised the OP didn’t happen to be coincidentally joined by a host of other Join Date:Mar 2015 posters sharing the same extremely valid and sincere concerns. I guess 4chan is losing steam or something ?
What repulsive, hateful nonsense. You clearly didn’t even read the article you linked to. Let’s give a little taste of what leftists say:
So yeah, I know you desperately want to accuse leftists of being racists, but fail.
Silver lining time. It fails at being anything other than a nasty little bit of hateful ranting aimed at leftists. But I know there are some folks on the left who had trouble understanding what made Der Trihs’s posts so obnoxious to those on the right. Your mirror-image posting style may give those folks greater empathy. So there’s that.
Let me guess … some of your best friends are social justice warriors?
And it’s just a COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that these two people you named have spent the last year being terrorized by those who think the social justice movement is hypocritical and wrong. And it’s just a COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that you also think the social justice movement (which - again - is not really a thing) is bad and wrong.
Sure, because the last eight months have been spent explaining to morons that the phrase is not a pejorative. That’s not the same thing as being part of an organized movement.
Right. It’s all just a COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that you’re here complaining about Sarkeesian and Valenti and “social justice” using the exact same arguments and language that terrorists have been using for the last eight months. It’s SO UNFAIR that anyone would connect you with all those other people who have been making the exact same argument that you’re making.
I’m not the only one who sees what you’re doing.
As someone living across the Atlantic, I would never have heard of them (or GamerGate) but for Cracked article comments.