I find it curious that OP’s conception and further examples of social justice seem to be limited to rather narrow critiques of popular culture.
naita
March 27, 2015, 2:02pm
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Probably a coincidence as well that the OP has chosen a moniker that identifies him as either a proper, primitive macho-man or as a fan of obscure Philip K. Dick short stories.
Miller
March 27, 2015, 4:13pm
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Frylock:
Though the term originated as an epithet, it’s been appropriated by its targets, and now enough people self-identify as SJWs for badges to exist. (And, you’ll see on clicking the link, badges for Social Justice Mages, Social Justice Rogues, Social Justice Clerics, and so on. )
So, they’re taking an epithet, and turning the term into a source of pride and self-identification?
That’s so gay.
Frylock:
Though the term originated as an epithet, it’s been appropriated by its targets, and now enough people self-identify as SJWs for badges to exist. (And, you’ll see on clicking the link, badges for Social Justice Mages, Social Justice Rogues, Social Justice Clerics, and so on. )
Pretty sure “Social Justice Paladin” would capture it pretty well.
Considering that accusations of it also often include those of whiteknighting, I’m surprised that isn’t used more often.
I did read the article. All of it, including the sentences that you quoted, confirms that race and political correctness (i.e. the desire to not be seen as racist) was a factor preventing local government and police from addressing the problem. The politicians in charge were the Rotherham Metropolitan Bureau Council (dominated by the Labor Party, to no one’s surprise). There have since been mass resignations. There have been multiple government investigations into what went so terribly wrong in Rotherham. Here are some findings:
In the broader organisational context, however, there was a widespread perception that messages conveyed by some senior people in the Council and also the Police, were to ‘downplay’ the ethnic dimensions of CSE [Child Sexual Exploitation]. Unsurprisingly, frontline staff appeared to be confused as to what they were supposed to say and do and what would be interpreted as ‘racist’. From a political perspective, the approach of avoiding public discussion of the issues was ill judged.
There was too much reliance by agencies on traditional community leaders such as elected members and imams as being the primary conduit of communication with the Pakistani-heritage community. The Inquiry spoke to several Pakistani-heritage women who felt disenfranchised by this and thought it was a barrier to people coming forward to talk about CSE.
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In her 2006 report, she stated that ‘it is believed by a number of workers that one of the difficulties that prevent this issue [CSE] being dealt with effectively is the ethnicity of the main perpetrators’. She also reported in 2006 that young people in Rotherham believed at that time that the Police dared not act against Asian youths for fear of allegations of racism.
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Several people interviewed expressed the general view that ethnic considerations had influenced the policy response of the Council and the Police, rather than in individual cases. One example was given by the Risky Business project Manager (1997- 2012) who reported that she was told not to refer to the ethnic origins of perpetrators when carrying out training. Other staff in children’s social care said that when writing reports on CSE cases, they were advised by their managers to be cautious about referring to the ethnicity of the perpetrators.
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Those who had involvement in CSE were acutely aware of these issues and recalled a general nervousness in the earlier years about discussing them, for fear of being thought racist.
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The issue of race, regardless of ethnic group, should be tackled as an absolute priority if it is known to be a significant factor in the criminal activity of organised abuse in any local community. There was little evidence of such action being taken in Rotherham in the earlier years.
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One senior officer suggested that some influential Pakistani-heritage councillors in Rotherham had acted as barriers. Several councillors interviewed believed that by opening up these issues they could be ‘giving oxygen’ to racist perspectives that might in turn attract extremist political groups and threaten community cohesion.
Source: http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham
The issue [of CSE perpetrators] was predominately Asian men and they were scared that would cause a problem. We would tell them that in the forums and they were uncomfortable. Stats on ethnicity were taken out of presentations. There was resistance to focusing on who the perpetrators were.
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Inspectors heard evidence from a range of quarters that indicated RMBC struggled historically and into the present day with the issue of race. It seems that with an intention of not being racist, their ways of dealing with race does more harm than good.
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Some interviewees talked about a historical context in which RMBC were concerned not to do anything that might be seen as ‘offensive’ to a minority community. The problem has been that that so called ‘political correctness’ has cast its shadow over the actions in subsequent years.
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Staff perceived that there was only a small step between mentioning the ethnicity of perpetrators and being labelled a racist.
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[My] experience of council as it was and is – Asian men very powerful, and the white British are very mindful of racism and frightened of racism allegations so there is no robust challenge. They had massive influence in the town.
Source: Report of inspection of Rotherham metropolitan borough council - GOV.UK
I prefer, “Literally Social Justice Hitler”, myself.
ITR_champion:
I did read the article. All of it, including the sentences that you quoted, confirms that race and political correctness (i.e. the desire to not be seen as racist) was a factor preventing local government and police from addressing the problem.
What was a factor was that some idiots in this one particular area made some really terrible decisions–decisions they absolutely would not have made if the victims had had more of a voice, say, had been wealthy white girls instead of poor white girls. The article you linked to, and every other bit of evidence out there, shows that class was as significant a factor as ethnicity.
Moreover, your insane hateful idea that this reflects on liberalism as a whole is contraindicated by the reactions from every other fucking liberal in the world . The idiots in Rotherham who made these decisions aren’t getting defended by liberals. They’re getting excoriated by liberals. If your idiotic idea about the “leftist narratives” were right, that wouldn’t be happening.
But by all means, don’t let anything like logic or facts distract you from your hate-on for liberals.
And it’s interesting to read that report. The very report that ITR Champion links to lists, equal to the idea that worrying about race is a problem, the problem of sexism:
“When Professor Jay’s report came out, the one thing that we found funny, that had
us in stitches, was the idea that those old bunch of politicians could have a problem
with political correctness! Ha ha! They couldn’t be further from politically correct.
They were bullies, they were sexist.” A senior officer
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“There was a crude, macho, sexist thing. It was disappointing that it wasn’t
challenged by the men I respected. I was told to put up with it.” A former senior
officer
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“The girls, the way they dress, they don’t look 14-15 years old, the way they make up
– they look more adult. They go into clubs, get served in bars, It’s very difficult for
me, very modern dress……They have been fooled definitely [men in Asian
Community]. The British Asians. If you have identified so many perpetrators, why
have there been so little arrests? They feel British Asians have been hit by Jay.” A
current Councillor
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“When Professor Jay’s report came out, the one thing that we found funny, that had
us in stitches, was the idea that those old bunch of politicians could have a problem
with political correctness! Ha ha! They couldn’t be further from politically correct.
They were bullies, they were sexist.” A senior officer
But yeah. ITR Champion’s narrative requires that leftists be Evil Incarnate, so he skips over passages like this that suggest the issue is more complicated that liberals condoning the rape of white girls by brown men.
Kobal2
March 27, 2015, 8:33pm
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Well, ok, but somebody’s gotta be the Social Justice Rogue. I’ll be the Social Justice Monk/Psion.
That first quote was so nice, I had to quote it twice! Oops.
Left_Hand_of_Dorkness:
Uh, do you know what a euphemism is? Because nobody on earth uses the phrase that way except for people who’d like to continue bigoted behaviors and prop up bigoted institutions. It’s a blitheringly stupid interpretation of the phrase, not remotely euphemistic.
A mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.
Not unlike a certain liberal politician describing the president as “light-skinned” with “no Negro dialect” as a fitting euphemism for “he don’t look like a nigger nor do he talk like one.”
And I presume Mr. Reid is also a Social Justice Warrior these days :rolleyes:
Stringbean:
A mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.
Not unlike a certain liberal politician describing the president as “light-skinned” with “no Negro dialect” as a fitting euphemism for “he don’t look like a nigger nor do he talk like one.”
And I presume Mr. Reid is also a Social Justice Warrior these days :rolleyes:
The fuck are you on about? Is this performance art?
Ithaca College’s student government votes to call for establishing an online database system for reporting microaggressions (http://theithacan.org/news/ic-sga-passes-bill-to-create-system-to-report-microaggressions/ ):
The Ithaca College Student Government Association passed a bill March 16 to create an online system to report microaggressions, which sponsors of the bill said will create a more conducive environment for victims to speak about microaggressions.
The bill, sponsored by Class of 2018 senator Angela Pradhan, calls for the implementation of a campus-wide online system to report microaggressions to “make Ithaca College a safer, more inclusive and diverse community for all students.”
Liberal hypocrisy and your errant understanding of the word “euphemism,” is all.
Next show’s at 9.
wonky
March 27, 2015, 10:33pm
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So, is this just a random “Bitch about liberals” thread, now?
Emphasis on the “random.”
wonky
March 27, 2015, 11:46pm
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A liberal didn’t do the dishes last night!
It’s because the night is dark, and they’re afraid of offending black people, because that’s their narrative.
naita
March 28, 2015, 6:51am
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Stringbean:
A mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.
Not unlike a certain liberal politician describing the president as “light-skinned” with “no Negro dialect” as a fitting euphemism for “he don’t look like a nigger nor do he talk like one.”
And I presume Mr. Reid is also a Social Justice Warrior these days :rolleyes:
Took me no time at all to find mention of Mr. Reid apologising for those phrases. Being flawlessly disconnected from the biases of your culture is not a requirement for being a decent human being, apologising when they influence you in the wrong direction is.
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