There absolutely is such a thing as “Christianity” on its own, saying otherwise is ignorant.
Is the Holy Bible Catholic? Is it Baptist? Is it Episcopalian? Is it Lutheran?
…Written by a Christian who does not belong to a particular sect, so I clearly don’t exist.
About their version of Christian principles - which seems to go heavy on condemnation and exclusion and light to non-existent on such things as turning the other cheek, the Good Samaritan and the Sermon on the Mount.
Well, different Christian sects have differing teachings on which books belong in the Bible; most of those differences are in which Old Testament books are included in their Bible. Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians each have Bibles with different contents.
A house not far from me has for years flown a big Trump flag, until it was in tatters. Now I see they have replaced it with what is clearly an Kentucky Orphan Brigade flag, one of the many flags promoting the Confederacy.
This flag is a red Christian cross having two white stars on the top, three on each of the horizontal projections, and five on the bottom. This is on a blue field.
It certainly looks like a hybrid of Christianity and US nationalism.
Does anybody know what is meant when somebody flies this flag?
Here’s one for sale, just to illustrate:
ISTM that I could say that in USA identity politics there is a significant, hell, a large overlap of “Christan nationalists” and “white supremacists” as both coincide in aiming for reactionary sociocultural policies to prevail. The CNs because their foundation myth is “hey God himself led old-time Christians to start this country” and the WSs because theirs is “hey it was White Europeans who started the country with their superior culture” , and in both cases it’s “those others” who are ruining things by not knowing their place and introducing different thought.
The Orphan Brigade was called that because they were so sure of the Confederate cause, they were willing to renounce their homes and cut ties with their families to join. Kentucky tried to be neutral in the war, and hoped to act as a mediator between the sides, but its citizens weren’t always willing to be so passive. With a majority of the state being pro-Union, it officially stayed part of the US and rejected the Confederacy.
I can’t be a mind-reader, but I don’t think this flag is being flown to show Christian Nationalism, but rather to show an allegiance to the values of the South. White supremacy, an embrace of the “old ways”, etc.
Somehow people here seem to think that only white people are Christian, while that is not true at all. Nor are only white people Christian Nationalists.
Yep.
I’m not really sure why you quoted me before this comment…it doesn’t flow from what I was saying either as agreement or disagreement.
In case it is because you think I was implying only white people are Christian Nationalists, note that I talked about black christian nationalists upthread here.
“Molotov cocktails only on weekdays” ?
What I know is that a book that is called The Case for Christian Nationalism by a leader of the movement who is clearly a white supremacist. The arguments in the main text are about how people naturally want to be with their “kind,” but the the appendix makes the white supremacy very explicit.
Here’s a review I read, by someone who is as sympathetic as they can be to the idea of Christian Nationalism, but has to call at turd a turd.
I wonder about the too-fine distinctions between the two terms being drawn in this thread, the overly literal distinctions between “white” and “Christian” and between “supremacist” and “nationalist.” Of course not every white person is a Christian, not vice versa, and there’s a wide chasm between the root meanings of “supremacy” and “nationalism,” almost as if these somewhat facile explanations are seeking to minimize the suggestion that the overlap between the two terms is considerable, especially to members of either tribe. If you were to ask someone who self-identifies as either, I doubt you’d get strong objections to the suggestion that they’re highly sympathetic to the other term. Maybe they’d stress the importance of the term they choose, but I can’t imagine there would be much denouncing of the other one.
I read a lot of that review which reinforced my views that more and more conservative intellectuals - Rod Dreher of The American Conservative is another - are waving the white flag in the pursuasion wars. Instead, they have concluded that popular democracy has failed and they now need a CaesarHitlerTrump to end this experiment in individual liberty and give us their version of goodness no matter how much it hurts.
No thanks, I’m a democrat.
I should have been more clear and said I was mostly talking about section 4, the part about the epilogue. Here are some quotes from said epilogue:
Every step of progress is overcoming you. Ask yourself, “What sort of villain does each event of progress have in common?” The straight white male. That is the chief out-group of New America, the embodiment of regression and oppression.
Are you a minority and have a grievance? Signal displeasure to white women, even blame them for your pain, and women will shower you with money and retweets. […] Consider also child transgenderism, which seems to be facilitated in large part by over-empathetic and sometimes deranged mothers. The most insane and damaging sociological trends of our modern society are female-driven. The gynocracy is self-destructive and breeds social disorder.
Well said overall. As to this specific bit
At best there’d be some half-hearted comment that “well, some people go a bit too far you know” or else “Yeah, some people don’t quite have the fire in their belly they ought to.”
IMO they’re kindred spirits differing only in how brazen they are they’re willing to be in public.
I beleive that most christians arent right wingers, but i beleive most right wingers are christian.
Nominally…
Meaning ? ( Non eng speaker here)
Meaning that they call themselves Christians, but that they’re not in fact followers of the teachings of Christ.
Quite so. One might say CINO.
Or refer to Matthew Ch 23.
Or, more crudely, what they’ve got to do with Jesus - Jesus only knows.
“If all Christians acted like Christ, all the world would be Christian.”—attributed (probably falsely, but still a cool sentiment) to Gandhi