Is there really a "Pink Tax"?

Maybe your experience is different, but most people I know don’t get radically different haircuts every single time. So they really would usually know how much their haircut is going to cost before getting to
the salon - roughly the same as it did last time.

Duluth is overpriced but the quality is good. Unfortunately since they don’t make anything in Petite (the marketing name for short women – Petite also includes short fat sizes) I don’t buy much there, although I do buy stuff there for my husband, who has refused to buy clothing for himself for over forty years (his mommy bought his clothes for him previously).

I shop in the boy’s department, like many smaller women who need well-made outdoor work clothes. If you think there’s a disparity between men’s and women’s, try women’s and boys! It’s like half the price. You just have to try to find items without the logos of sports teams or images of violent cartoon figures.

L.L.Bean and of lesser quality, Land’s End, have well made simple women’s clothing. Not many others.

I was recently in the market for a bit of dog grooming and I searched all the local dog groomer’s websites. All the ones that did not have standard pricing I eliminated immediately. I have no desire to negotiate a price with anyone I dont have to.

Most breeds I see seem to have a standard breed cut. The price is probably very dependent on breed, like it is for men and women.

There is a poodle tax, you may think poodle owners want a fancy poodle cut but in actuality the patriarchy forces poodle owners to get their pets groomed like that.

It would make it harder to switch barbers because you would need a new estimate every time.

This is not accurate. This difference between a shirt and a blouse, to a dry cleaner, isn’t just the buttons, it’s the cut. They don’t not have a machine for blouses because of sexism, it’s because shirts are straight up and down, blouses are fitted for a narrow waist, so they have to be done by hand. So being inside out wouldn’t make any difference, because the buttons are completely irrelevant. Here’s a video of a dry cleaner explaining why there is a price difference in a news story about this pink tax: - YouTube

Are you aware that there are women’s shirts that are straight up and down and don’t get narrowed at the waist? Sometimes, they are called "boyfriend shirts. I think previously linked to This article which describes a man and a woman being charged different prices for cleaning the exact same shirt/blouse.

Ms. Anthony brought her size 6 plain pink cotton blouse to several cleaners and was told she would be charged $3. When a male co-worker brought the same shirt to the same cleaners he was charged $1.50.

Fisher-Price Laugh 'N Learn Blue Smartwatch

$6.49

Fisher-Price Laugh 'N Learn Pink Smartwatch

$7.99

Playskool Lullaby Gloworm Toy with 6 Lullaby Tunes, Blue

$14.99

Playskool Pink Glo Worm Stuffed Lullaby Toy, Pink

$19.99

Fisher-Price Soothe & Glow Seahorse in blue

$12.97 for both frustration-free and standard packaging

Fisher-Price Soothe & Glow Seahorse, Pink

$15.99 both frustration-free, $21.01 for standard packaging

And this is one of the reasons my daughter rarely got pink or purple toys if they were available in other colors. ( The other reason is that it’s more socially acceptable to have a girl play with these than it is to have a boy play with these )

I recently bought my baby boy some pink and purple plastic maracas. Paid extra for the colors, too. I haven’t gone wild with transgressing gender norms, but I wanted him to have some variety.

I’ve tried to keep up with this thread, and forgive me if I am repeating what has already been said, but the reason pink bicycles, pink razors, pink laxatives, all cost more is because there are people (mostly women, but men, often, as well) will pay more for them. A theme running through this thread is that “pink” things cost more because they cost more to produce. That’s bunk. They cost more because people will pay more for them.

Women’s dry cleaning costs more because they will pay more for the service. A dry cleaner, historically, will process men’s shirts at a discount to get the higher prices they can get for blouses and skirts. Men will need 5 shirts a week. A woman may need two or three outfits. If a dry cleaner will do the shirts for $1.00 each to get the outfits at $10 a piece, it isn’t that there is a conspiracy against women’s clothes, but that it just makes good business sense. A man taking care of his own laundry may take his shirts to a cleaner who only charges $0.79 a shirt, and just accept poorly pressed or missing buttons. A wiser person may decide it makes more sense to pay $1.75 each for the shirts and not have to deal with the problems.

Salesmen will always tell the customer that an item costs more to buy because it costs more to produce. That’s a load of crap (obviously, it’s coming from a salesman). That’s just leverage they are using to get the customer to pay more. The job of the salesman is to get the customer to pay as much as they can get the customer to pay for the merchandise. That’s the purpose behind any “Sale” or “Discount” or any other incentive. The salesmen are not trying to do a favor for the customer. They are trying to get the customer to pay as much as they can.

This happens all the time already in women’s salons, especially for color and chemical processing, such as perms and straightening, and elaborate styles. They will have a price list for the basic services, but if you are looking for a spiral perm or extension or an elaborate braided style or even coloring in long hair, the stylist listens to what you want, takes a look at your hair and quotes you a price. Sometimes it’s simply the cost of the extra chemicals - I’ve always had long hair and when I had the salon color it, one box was never enough, usually it includes the extra time as well. It’s not a big deal, really. It didn’t increase my wait time, and I don’t know why it would -although sometimes the work took a while — and the “negotiations” usually consisted of them giving me a price that was about what I expected an me saying OK

I use tools a lot. I was an Army mechanic, I work on my own cars, and I owned a house for 20 years, so I DIY’d home repairs all that time. My late great FIL was a contractor, and could describe something over the phone, and I could do it. I built the loft we sleep on. I rebuilt the whole electrical system on a 1961 Falcon. I build my own computers. I fix my own pinball machines. I’ve built bookcases, assembled just about everything you can name.

I have tons of tools. Good tools, too. Not Craftsman or generic-- Snap on, usually, or other professional brands. I have never, ever had a problem with my hands being too small for tools, and I do not have very big hands. Granted, I don’t have very tiny hands-- I know petite women who have really, really tiny hands, but mine are smaller than any man that I know, including men my height (5’5).

Now, that said, I do have strong hands, and forearms, and arms and shoulders in general. I think strength, not hand size, is going to be more of a limiting factor for women. I’m not sure how much small tools help, though, because tools have to be big enough to provide proper leverage.

Also, I would never buy anything pink. I loathe the color pink.

I have. My hands are small, but not freakishly tiny, just about 1" shorter than average for a woman. I use stubby handled tools when there’s the option to, and it makes life much easier.

Especially hammers, though 8oz, not 4. If you prefer that they’re not pink, Harbor Freight is a good place to get one. Home Depot has non-pink stubby handled ratcheting screw drivers that are good too.

Short sidetrack: Thats why I wait for their stuff to go on sale.

My wife likes the womens section.

Yes, strength is the important thing for me in hand tools, which I used all day every day in my job. Fat screwdrivers and long ratchet handles were what I needed for the high torque stuff. None of my stuff was pink.

I have a pair of serious-work-tool pruning shears from Felco that are designed for smaller hands. (I also have a couple of pairs of the regular ones; which I find more wearing to use for long stretches, but useful when larger things need to be cut.)

The smaller-hands Felcos are not pink. They have the same red handles as all their other shears.

They’re not marketed specifically as a version for women, but for anyone with smaller hands or making cuts in tight spaces.

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Life hands you a PERFECT excuse not go running, and THIS is what you do with it?

Excellent idea. You could check the internet for “going rates” for a car service eg: replace fan belt.
My mother insisted my brother learnt how to knit and sew. My father taught me about fan belts, battery charging, oil check, rewiring houses, replacing roofs. They were both brought up in the country. It really ticks me off though that men’s clothing is of often of better quality and cheaper than similar women’s items.

Check out overlockers. I’m short and slightly overweight. Constantly having to take up sleeves and trousers.
I buy men’s shirts especially in winter as they are warmer. I buy my shoes in childrens wear a lot of the time as I am only 5’ tall and 5.5 shoe size. I’m lucky to get a 6 in womens shoes. I often raid children’s spectacles as well as well I’m tiny and in womens specs there may be hundreds of styles and only two in my size!
Whatever works!

I now get my haircut at a $15 booth for men and women that charge the same price. You pay in advance in a ticket machine setup. They actually do a really good job. [I’m female].