Yeh, to hell with that. Someone else said this on the SDMB, to paraphrase - “It’s pretty messed up when the best way to stay out of prison is to remain in elected office”.
If he’s not locked up, I hope he spends the rest of his miserable life sitting in uncomfortable court rooms.
I agree the Democrats taking control of the House and Senate would staunch the damage presently being done by those in power. But, we are not there yet. Check out this report where kids were able to hack voting machines and alter results.
Seems the voting process is porous to shenanigans. I suspect 2016 was the first of many questionable elections we are going to see. It’s starting to look like a banana republic, where elections are decided by a landslide where 98% of votes went for one candidate. Yeah, right.
You specifically wanted to know what crimes he would be impeached for. I answered that.
Do the math.
It takes 67 votes in Senate to convict after impeachment. If the Democrats win* every *seat up for election this fall, they end up with 58 seats.
The (political) evidence we’ve seen so far suggests that any Republican who openly opposes Trump would be defeated in the next primary election. Unless you can show me 9 incumbent Senate Republicans who are ready to end their careers, discussion is pointless.
No, you most certainly did NOT. Being a “religious asshole” is NOT a crime.
Cite? From what I can tell, if he ever said that, it certainly wasn’t “openly”.
I’ll take “things that aren’t true” for $1000.
You’re quoting Trump - always a risky practice.
Not yet. But when the Democrats take control of Congress, we can hope…
So what? Impeachment can be for anything.
It’s entirely possible for Pence to be a conspirator. Unless you believe he was in the dark on the campaign shenanigans.
Maybe Mueller is looking into that.
I think it’s unlikely we’ll see an impeachment. But right now, we have a Congress that’s bending over backwards to enable Trump. I’d like to see a Congress that would hold Trump responsible for his actions. If nothing else, we need a Congress that is willing to show the American people how Trump is failing as President. Let the truth be seen so he’ll be voted out in 2020.
Emphasis added. I thought he stated that he was a well hung, openly gay man. Did I misread that quote?
Yesterday felt like every seasons episode 9 of Game of Thrones.
No shit Sherlock. :rolleyes:
You said that VP Pence has committed crimes, plural. Now you’re backpedaling with words like “possible” and “maybe”.
Do you have a cite that the Vice-President has committed any crimes?
It was over for Trump when:
He went after McCain
Went after gold star family
Grab the Pussy tape came out
etc.
He’s like John Gotti, the teflon don
Pence isn’t getting impeached. He’s a career politician that won’t even go out to eat with a woman that isn’t his wife. The only allegations against him are so flimsy that you could see your gramma’s hoo haa through them. Not to mention how politically untenable that would be. Impeaching Trump is itself a major step that is unlikely, but you’re starting to talk revolution if you impeach Pence for showing up late to a meeting where a memo about firing Comey was read. You might not like his stances and I’m not saying that he’s as clean as Mormon underwear, but if he did anything, it’s not even close to rising to impeachable levels. Besides, let’s pretend absolute best case scenario where Democrats win every single seat up for reelection including Mississippi, Wyoming and Utah (unlikely, in fact, it’s even possible due to the unluckiness of the map this year and maybe likely that Republicans pick up seats in the Senate, not lose them, but we’ll pretend.) That would give them 58 seats in the Senate and they need 67 to impeach. Which 9 Republicans exactly do you think are jumping ship to convict Pence of being in the same room where a memo was read?
It won’t be that close. It’ll be 8-1 or 7-2. Kavanaugh supposedly has some record that indicates he might vote against in certain circumstances, I haven’t looked at it closely. The Coke can will stay awake long enough to dissent. Mueller won’t issue a subpoena he doesn’t think will get as close to a unanimous vote as possible.
I still want to see this happen and have Trump defy it. Very badly. It’s the only thing that’s going to stop him.
Pence was sure quick to duck and cover when the whole conspiracy with Russia thing started coming out when Manafort was the campaign chairman.
Cohen’s admission of guilt is one thing, Mueller putting all his cards on the table is another. Keep in mind, that Mueller has the best tax crime forensics experts on his team, and access to Trumps tax records. Don’t be surprised when Mueller can show conclusively that a) The Trump organization illegally laundered billions of dollars in Russian oligarch money, b) there is fire behind all the Russian conspiracy smoke, c) congressional lapdogs are also at least peripherally and tacitly complicit in the Russian conspiracy, and finally d) Trump is not in the billionaire club
Mueller won’t know how much wealth Trump has.
He doesn’t have to account for all of Trump’s money. He just has to look for any connections between Trump and Russian donors.