My personal opinion is that the right wing dream isn’t treating people like Jews in Nazi Germany. It’s treating people like blacks in the United States in the same era.
They don’t want to literally commit genocide. The right wingers are willing to allow their enemies to live. But the right wingers want to take away all of their enemies’ rights, especially voting, and make them second class citizens subject to right wing control. There will be some individuals killed, either for protesting their situation or to demonstrate that the right wing controllers have the power to kill people with impunity.
I’ll point out that the thread states “pre-Nazi Germany”, so my point stands unchallenged.
And as you noted, in 1933, all of the things happened. And they happened because in the years leading up to 1933, the common attitude was “they’ll never actually do what they’re saying they’ll do.”
Game and Fish departments have laws about what firearms one may hunt with, and I doubt if machine guns are included. Enough people are killed accidentally with bolt action rifles during hunting season.
Right… every state has its own laws that pertain to hunting game. These include the “tools” that are allowed. In Ohio, for example, you can hunt deer with a bow & arrow from September 24 through February 5, and you can use a gun from November 28 through December 4. As for the type of gun, you can use a shotgun w/ slug rounds, handgun, or a rifle that takes straight-wall cartridges. In Ohio you can’t use a “high-powered rifle” for hunting deer (e.g. .223 or .308). Interestingly, there are no “tool” restrictions for hunting coyote in Ohio; you can use a semi-automatic .50 BMG if you want.
But since OP does not have that attitude, “It’ll never happen” isn’t the attitude at least in this thread.
Why doesn’t every country become Nazi Germany every single year? Apparently it is some flip of a switch and a bunch of laws get passed and it’s on to extermination camps. And it can happen in any country at any time.
Since that doesn’t actually happen, I think those claiming or inferring it will happen should be required to show their work.
It’s “the obvious identification problem” to you. To them, you’re obviously a latte-drinking soyboy socialist Nazi-Commie who loves Hunter Biden and Satan.
These are not people who worry about “nuance”, is what I’m saying. Anyone they disagree with even slightly is the worst person in the world, period. Liz Cheney voted with them 99% of the time, but is now worse than Hitler because she dared to question Trump. Anyone in the LGBTQ spectrum is a “groomer”. Anyone who espouses an economic policy more complicated than “tax cuts” is a communist. Anyone who suggests that any aspect of American history is in any way regrettable is a CRT-loving traitor.
And yes, this means that at some point, a lot of them are going to end up on the wrong side of their own mob, but that’s a risk they’re not even going to notice until it’s too late.
Yeah, you don’t have to go “full fascist” for things to be awfully uncomfortable. And the US is a big country. You can’t expect fascism to be evenly distributed all at once.
I never said anything of the sort. Others said that if this is supposed to feel like pre-Nazi Germany then we should soon see laws restricting the rights and movements of Democrats.
I disagree with the exaggerated claims of the OP, based on my personal experience of the location. Unlike the OP, actually posted real life events and experience, not vague suppositions.
Since Nazi Germanys have not sprung up everywhere, all of the time, most of the time “It WON’T happen here” is true. If we want to learn from history maybe we should try to find common patterns.
Define uncomfortable. Black in this country for most of history uncomfortable? Gay in most times and most places uncomfortable?
I know women hikers and I know they have to be more careful hiking alone for obvious reasons. But this has sadly most always been the case, women need to be more careful about being alone. It’s not exactly something new.
Things have to actually be uncomfortable and threatening in real life, not in some Internet bubble world.
Unless we are going to actually compare facts on the ground, this discussion is useless to me and I will end my participation.
It’s certainly not attacking the poster to point out that the poster is making a “it can’t happen here” argument.
Right, we should soon start seeing, but you are asking for this now. Do you see why your demands are farcical?
You have personal experience with the OP’s neighbors?
There is absolutely no logic used in your statement here. Wishful thinking, maybe.
The only place that it can’t happen is in a place where people know that it can and don’t hide their head in the sand and claim that it can’t. It requires vigilance to avoid sliding into authoritarianism. You are advocating ignoring the signs, exactly what the authoritarians want.
Right, patterns like government officials trying to override elections, news media in cahoots with them in riling up a populist and anti-democratic sentiment, or encouraging racism and bigotry as a scapegoating tactic? I could go on with a whole bunch more, but I am curious to see how you choose to wave aside every piece of evidence that is presented to you.
This is a small sample of what is happening now, which certainly follows the pattern of an attempt at a totalitarian takeover.
But I still want to know from the OP why pre-Nazi Germany. Is he implying that through further events like Trump in 2024 / further SCOTUS rulings / Pub controlled House and Senate / etc. that the US will end up just like Nazi Germany?
People of every political persuasion have predicted The sky is falling! for as long as I can remember. “But this time it’s true!” Uh huh. It’s getting tiresome.
